Best Child GPS/Info App

[lazerdude]

right on mcsinfl...no replacing parenting...the trouble out there now was not heard of when we were kids... child protection software is a parenting tool. It does not replace spending time with your kids... sadly when our kids become older teens, we are not as cool to them as when they are 10-15 or so...they wont tell us everything...good or bad

 

[mcatdtDroid]

link worked from a computer, I was on my phone and it took me to a mobile site but didn'thave the story. Read it now

problem is, the 14 yo girl is a slut and grandmother has no control over her. How would that girl having a smart phone with gps tracking have prevented her from inviting this guy up to her room.

bottom line, there is no app on the market that replaces talking with your kid...

I don't know why you think a 7 y.o. (2nd grade?) will ever be in a need to have no way of calling you from a landline if they need you. If a 7 y.o. is unsupervised for that long, there are other issues.

Even if you get them a dumb phone that calls preset numbers.... I could just about get on board with that given the right circumstances.... but you are giving a 7 y.o. full internet access. Man, lemme tell you, porn plays really well on droids. you may can outsmart him now with search history and whatnot, but wait til he's 13 and has 6 years of experience is figuring out ways to work that phone.

 

[mcsinfl]

mcatdtDroid, this is not worth discussing with you any more. I reported your posts on this and the other threads to the moderators, I will let them decide. You are doing nothing but arguing a position that has nothing to do with you, and is certainly not helping the thread or those of us that choose to raise their kids differently than you.

Peace, and good luck

 

[lazerdude]

Just to be sure...I DO NOT CONDONE THE USE OF MONITORING SOFTWARE TO REPLACE PARENTING...GEEZ

true parenting is knowing what they are doing...you can choose to not let them have the technology and thats fine (but I bet you wont...you kids will have the latest, greatest and you know it). So the next level of parenting is to know what they are doing with it.

Your tone indicates that you want to punish or have "consequences" for them being teens...maybe you should take a breath and realize teens will mess up whether electronics are involved or not...use monitoring as a parenting tool...not to catch them doing something you dont like...again, they will do that whether or not your know, care, punish, ground, take away the car, phone, friend, etc.

Easy way to track text data is to setup handcent as the default and use handcent online to view texts

Agreed...my problem comes when a kid figures it out and simply bypasses it and uses stock mms app. This is when true parenting should come in and consequences are given for trying to 'outsmart' the parent. But instead, parents would rather try to find a better app instead of confronting the kid


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[mcatdtDroid]

so, you make a habit of reporting opposing views to your own? nice


I argue that nannyapps don't replace parenting. I argue that kids aren't ready for full access to internet that smart phones offer.

it's implied that if you don't use nanny apps, you don't think anything can happen to your kids. I disagree. I know my daughter is at risk. Blonde haired-blueeyed little girls are targets and I never think she is immune to it.. but we are mixing topics here. A GPS enabled app does not prevent my 13 y.o. from being at risk. Tell me a time a 13 y.o. needs to be out on her own where a landline is not available? While I am open to some possibilities, a smart phone is no more of a protection than just a regular dumb phone. She doesn't need full inet access to go to the store with her best friend.

 

[lazerdude]

wow!

Man, you dont get it...smart phone has nothing to do with it...the original post was wanting gps and texting monitoring...so to answer you...if they had monitored the texts (and the computer) they would have known.

dont judge the little girl...she was a 7 yr old at one time, too...just like yours is.

hey man...mine is already 19...never was ahead me...I monitored everything...and saw things I didnt like (and things I never would have know by asking), but guess what...I parented accordingly...it is a tool not a replacement for love and nuturing of your child.

Good luck to you...dont monitor your kid(s)...your choice.

link worked from a computer, I was on my phone and it took me to a mobile site but didn'thave the story. Read it now

problem is, the 14 yo girl is a slut and grandmother has no control over her. How would that girl having a smart phone with gps tracking have prevented her from inviting this guy up to her room.

bottom line, there is no app on the market that replaces talking with your kid...

I don't know why you think a 7 y.o. (2nd grade?) will ever be in a need to have no way of calling you from a landline if they need you. If a 7 y.o. is unsupervised for that long, there are other issues.

Even if you get them a dumb phone that calls preset numbers.... I could just about get on board with that given the right circumstances.... but you are giving a 7 y.o. full internet access. Man, lemme tell you, porn plays really well on droids. you may can outsmart him now with search history and whatnot, but wait til he's 13 and has 6 years of experience is figuring out ways to work that phone.

 

[mcsinfl]

mcatdDroid, I wouldn't have, but this is the third thread regarding this topic that you've tried to push your opinion rather than be helpful. We get it, you don't think kids should have smartphones....move on

 

[mcatdtDroid]

Just to be sure...I DO NOT CONDONE THE USE OF MONITORING SOFTWARE TO REPLACE PARENTING...GEEZ

true parenting is knowing what they are doing...you can choose to not let them have the technology and thats fine (but I bet you wont...you kids will have the latest, greatest and you know it). So the next level of parenting is to know what they are doing with it.

Your tone indicates that you want to punish or have "consequences" for them being teens...maybe you should take a breath and realize teens will mess up whether electronics are involved or not...use monitoring as a parenting tool...not to catch them doing something you dont like...again, they will do that whether or not your know, care, punish, ground, take away the car, phone, friend, etc.

Easy way to track text data is to setup handcent as the default and use handcent online to view texts

Agreed...my problem comes when a kid figures it out and simply bypasses it and uses stock mms app. This is when true parenting should come in and consequences are given for trying to 'outsmart' the parent. But instead, parents would rather try to find a better app instead of confronting the kid


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they do mess up, even mine. and she's a GREAT kid... really, she is. I trust her more than her mother as far as responsibility goes but I digress. However, I realize she's still 13 and giving her a loaded gun so long as I have an app to monitor how many bullets she shoots a day is not very good parenting.

 

[mcatdtDroid]

mcatdDroid, I wouldn't have, but this is the third thread regarding this topic that you've tried to push your opinion rather than be helpful. We get it, you don't think kids should have smartphones....move on

we get it, this is the third thread regarding this topic YOU'VE tried to push you opinion rather than be helpful.... we get it, you think kids should have smartphones.... move on.


what makes your opinion any more worthy of stating than mine? As long as people say what I think are stupid things, I am allowed to say what I think, just like you.

Must be a lovely utipian society you have set up that people aren't allowed to debate you on topics. Must be nice to alwasy be right.

 

[lazerdude]

there is no prevention...

from harm...only tools to lessen the chance.

Not sure what your point is when you say...
"I argue that nannyapps don't replace parenting. I argue that kids aren't ready for full access to internet that smart phones offer."
I never said anything replaces parenting...and what is your definition of "kids"? ...got news for ya...21 year olds arent ready for a lot of things either, but they can get it.

who says they have to be alone? they can be with friends, at school, at the mall...worst of all OTHER PARENTS WHO DONT CARE WHAT THEIR KID IS DOING...I'm not saying a 7 yr old needs any phone at all...but I am saying if they have one monitor it (to my knowledge you cannot monitor texts of dumb phones)
you can block the internet totally if you want on a smart phone (3rd party software may be required)...

"She doesn't need full inet access to go to the store with her best friend."
Man, the best friends are often the most dangerous.

so, you make a habit of reporting opposing views to your own? nice


I argue that nannyapps don't replace parenting. I argue that kids aren't ready for full access to internet that smart phones offer.

it's implied that if you don't use nanny apps, you don't think anything can happen to your kids. I disagree. I know my daughter is at risk. Blonde haired-blueeyed little girls are targets and I never think she is immune to it.. but we are mixing topics here. A GPS enabled app does not prevent my 13 y.o. from being at risk. Tell me a time a 13 y.o. needs to be out on her own where a landline is not available? While I am open to some possibilities, a smart phone is no more of a protection than just a regular dumb phone. She doesn't need full inet access to go to the store with her best friend.

 

[DF Smod]

Some subjects are more sensitive/contraversial than others - this being one of them - let's remember to keep things in perspective while posting and respect one another

 

[mcatdtDroid]

3rd party apps can be removed and reinstalled.....

you can monitor dumbphone texts.... I had an exwife who thought I was cheating.... I wasn't, but what she did was picked up another cheap, dumb phone and assigned it to my number. So she could read all my texts. She could have sent texts, but she was trying to catch me texting my alleged g/f. Definately a bigger issue between us that we never could work out, but the piont is, it can be done if you want

and yes, 21 y.o.'s mess up still too, but they are responsible to themselves at that time.

I challenge anyone who believes that nannyapps are good enough to go ahead and leave that 7 y.o. alone with a smartphone to monitor them.... see how well that holds up in your court trial for endangerment

 

[DramaForums]

Man I sure can't wait til the insane baby boomers are away in nursing homes so we can be done with stuff like this. I imagine you are probably fine with walking your kid on a leash in the mall too? And you'd probably feel violated if you found out that your boss read every single one of your private texts and emails, listened in on every call you made, and had you bugged so he could know every conversation you had during work.

You also probably had no problem leaving jr alone when he/she was a latchkey kid while you were always more concerned with work so you could have more material possessions to show off. Or did you go the overbearing homeschool route to protect him/her from the cruel evil world?

Noone to blame but yourself when your child becomes a spousal abusing control freak later on. The world is changing. Everyone seems to get that, even the retired grandparents in Florida, and the insane boomers are the only ones who are afraid of it. Sure I made a lot of assumptions here, but thats what we're doing right? I hope you at least tell your child you plan on being an mental, overprotective nutjob. Also, bookmark your states emancipation laws for him/her, they'll be needing them later.

No Im not a child,(yes, yes I only act like one. Saved you some predictive typing). And no Im not a parent either, but I dont need the “you won't know until your a parent" bs either. Experience makes you experienced, not automatically right. You could say that Im a caregiver of two young kids, and Ive worked in a middle school with troubled teens for 9years, if ya wanna know. A parent is only half the equation, and I have been the other half, being the child. I also had quite the interesting upbringing where my stepmom wanted to play "spy mom" too. It didnt end well at all. Just made me bitter and resentful and we never were close.

So anywho, I dont know your specific situation, and I dont expect you to give a shred of thought to what Ive said, but I hope give some thought before you go rogue 007 Mom and start invading your child's privacy. There is a fair chance it will just make your relationship strained(even more. Yes, if you've gotten here, there are some underlying issues).



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[keithsmith22]

Folks, lets calm it down a little. I didn't start this thread to get everyone fired up and irritated. I feel like I am a responsible parent. However, as kids grow up they also learn new things and some things they are embarrassed to talk about or share with their parents. Yes it is my job to keep in touch with my child and I do. However, I see these applications as a tool to be used by a parent. It's not a replacement for parenting. If my kid wants to look at porn, there are 800 million ways to do so. On Demand with Comcast, Wii, PS3, PSP, Computer, Phone, etc. They are there. And to be honest, porn is the least of my worries. If my son doesn't look at it as a teenager then I know something is wrong. Almost all teenage boys look at it. If it gets excessive then yes, there is a problem. However, there are a lot of other problems in this world. Molestation, kidnapping, bullying, sexting and so on. As a parent it is important to know about these things and to keep track of them. Plus a location based service could work wonders in finding them or helping them get somewhere if they are lost. This is not 1950 anymore and technology has helped and also hindered us. But as a parent of two I want my children to grow up safe and cared for. Not all boozing and drugging it up. So please, keep the tone respectful and if you have nothing positive to add then don't say anything. My questions still stands, are there any services or apps out there that can do what I am looking for. Thanks for all of you that have tried to help out. It really is helping guide be to the right things.

 

[mcsinfl]

Sorry about poluting your thread keithsmith22. Try the other thread I directed you to, at least a few apps are mentioned that may be worth trying