Battery Life

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  1. Wrigley25
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    I got mine Friday, and I am very concerned about the battery. I had an original droid, and the battery had gotten terrible. I was excited to get a new slider and have better battery life. Not working out that way.

    I realize with all the bells and whistles of the phone the battery will be taxed, but so far it will die after 8-9 hours of light-moderate use. Mainly of texting, a word game and uber social app. I'm not doing a lot of browsing or calling. And it is still dying that fast.



    Yesterday I only got 6.5 hours out of my battery. Wasn't watching movies, wasn't using youtube or browsing the web. Texting/UberSocial/Wordfeud/Foursquare. 6.5 hours. And I even have a GPS shortcut that I turn on and off when I use FourSquare. It's pathetic and very disappointing. And yes, I have smart actions enabled for when the battery reaches 25%. I think I am going to have to pay Verizon a visit and do something about it either trying a different Droid 4 or another device entirely ulnless you guys have some advice or reassurances.



    When I bought the phone, the Verizon guy told me to let the battery die before charging it. And he said to let this happen a few times before plugging it in before death or using a car charger. I listened to him. Based on what some of you have said he sounds wrong, and I'd like to know if this could be part of the reasoning for my battery being terrible.



    So in summary I guess I have the following questions:



    1. Could I just have a bad battery and need a new device?

    2. Did what the Verizon guy tell me to do damage the battery life of the phone?

    3. As someone else asked, what do you do if Verizon turns on the device to set it up and doesn't allow you the suggestion of fully charging before booting up?

    4. Does WiFi use less battery than 4G LTE?

    5. Why is the Android OS using far more battery than the Display? This is a huge contrast to the Orginal Droid.

    6. Tell me what to do. Please.





    Thank you.
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    I'll answer #2. To do what he said will not do any perceivable amount of damage to the battery, as long as it was only a few times. Unfortunately it will also do nothing to help the battery to push its charging capacity beyond where it was at point of manufacture.

    Where the negative effects of such deep discharging and recharging or "cycling" are seen is over extended periods of time and multiple repeated cycling. By extending the discharge and them fully charging stresses the battery. Damage can occur with even just one extreme discharge that goes below certain voltage level thresholds. Fortunately, the charging circuitry in the phone is designed to shut the phone off long before such damage occurs. If the charging circuitry were to fail and allow such deep discharge, even once, it could render the battery irreparable and unable to take any subsequent charge.

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    My battery seems to be lasting over 12 hours with moderate use - Texting, web browsing, some calls, light gaming. WiFi will KILL your battery in like 2 hours. I would highly suggest to NEVER EVER use wifi. the 4g is really fast anyway. and will use up a fraction of the battery power. Also remember to kill off battery draining apps that are open in the background. And, live wall papers will drain a lot of battery, too. Also, turn off GPS when you aren't using it. Another obvious battery drain is your screen. Turn it off whenever you aren't using it.

    You should be able to get a good 12 hours from one full charge. If you are not, you need to look at your usage and turn off whatever you aren't using at the moment.
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    I know the people at my Verizon do NOT know their stuff. First the guy couldn't find the battery and didn't believe me that it was non-removable.. and then he almost broke the battery cover trying to get it on. Totally scratched the thing up by where you put the key in to get the battery cover off. and THEN he was going through my e-mails and stuff. He said he had to send an activation e-mail... yeah, why does it take 5 minutes to do that. handed it back to me and he was in my e-mails and there was a new one that was already marked as read. he was pretty shady. I do NOT trust these "experts" with my phone... I have done more research and know more about it then they will ever know.
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    Well I keep being told not to kill apps. Android just re-boots them and the re-starting of an app drains more battery than an app just idling in the background.

    Apps that start despite my not using them are:

    Facebook
    Maps
    IM
    Verizon Location Agent
    Email Accounts
    ESPN ScoreCenter
    The Weather Channel
    Backup Assistant Plus
    GoToMeeting
    Voicemail
    DataOffload
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    Droid4 User guide, page 3, step 4 is 'Charge up' with a clock indicating you should let it go for ~3 hours.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Wi-Fi used up less power than 3G mode. It was my belief that since the phone is always searching for a signal in 3G, it uses up more juice than Wi-Fi. Am I incorrect about this?

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    No no no... WiFi uses tons more battery power than 3G/4G. Plus, when you have WiFi on... you still have 4g on anyway.

    Granted, I have heard otherwise. But in my experience, I just turn WiFi of and leave it off.
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    bravo. and now for you to address the second part of my original quote...
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    Not correct. Wifi uses less battery. The problem is when you have wifi enabled but dont have a wifi signal. Then it uses more battery because the phone is constantly looking to connect to wifi. So enable wifi if it is available. But disable it when you are not in range of a wifi network. Also when using wifi you can disable data if you are concerned about wifi and 3g/4g running at the same time.

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    4G stays on when on WiFi??? Thats fd up. 3G turns on on my d2 when Im on wifi. That sound suspicious. I dont know why 2 data sources would be on at the same time. Maybe its a bug in the software. Do all 4G phones behave like this?
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    It doesnt use both at the same time. If u are using wifi and dont disable data it will show that you have data 'available'. Whether its 3g or 4g. Wasnt like that on the D3 either but its on my bionic like that.

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    So, let me get this straight, because they handed it to you turned on, you have no responsibility to get it hooked up to a charger ASAP? Thats really your line of thought? This isn't rocket science, everyone knows the first thing you have to do with a new phone is charge it, the longer the better.

    Or am I suppose to somehow prove you dont really get 2 days on your X, not sure what your looking for here...
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    Lol.. sorry, but thats ridiculous. You didn't speak up about the situation? NO WAY would I let an employee go through my phone, period. When I got the Droid 4 I said do not under any circumstance take the phone out of the box. She told me that she "had to activate it for me", and I said that I would purchase it somewhere else instead. She ended up giving it to me in the box. You're spending hundreds of dollars in there, don't let them push you around! It seems like no one got any training on the Droid 4, everyone was clueless at my location too.

    And I've gotten 60+ hours on a single charge on my D2 with Liberty, so thats not out of the realm of possibility on an X.
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    Yea, the gal who was setting mine up seemed quite stymied by the Welcome to DROID4 screen. As soon as she handed it to me I refused to hand it back.

    Also, I have 0 doubt (or knowledge) of DX battery life, he was just unclear what he expected me to respond to.
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    just saying that when you approach a response with a confrontational tone, dont expect someone to just sit back and take it. especially confrontational towards someone new to these forums? go stretch your e-peen elsewhere.
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    I have been very happy with it. I kept my Droid 2 global plugged in all day at my office just to make it last. I don't plug the four in at all!

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    Yes.

    No.

    Don't worry about it.

    YES.

    4G uses much more power than either 3G or WiFi.

    Switching to WiFi whenever available is actually one of the first rules that Smart Actions automatically suggests.

    This seems commonplace on modern Android phones. A coworker with an SGS2 noticed the same thing on his phone.

    Try using WiFi whenever it's available, and see if that improves performance.

    If not, tell the store you have a bad battery, and exchange it for another D4.
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    I had a similar experience when I purchased the Droid 4 on its release day. I went in to a local store and immediately asked the first guy I saw about the Droid 4 and got a blank stare in return. "The Droid 4?" he asked. "Yes", I said, ..."it was released today." Then he goes, "Oh, let me go check to see if we have any in the back." After he got the phone out for me from the back he put in the 4G LTE sim-card I said, "the battery is non-removable, right? He was adamant that it was and tried to pick at the battery with the lock to open the back cover! I told the guy, "I don't think that's removable." It's a good thing the day before I purchased this bad boy I saw a "first-look" blog about the phone with an up-close photo of the WARNING STICKER on the battery itself, telling the consumer that it cannot be removed. Why didn't this half-wit know this? It's a pretty standard thing you should know about a phone. He is a Verizon Wireless salesman, after all. I was awe-struck, to say the least.
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    5. Why is the Android OS using far more battery than the Display? This is a huge contrast to the Orginal Droid.

    Thank you.[/QUOTE]

    1.Make sure that auto update apps is turned off in the market.
    2. Make sure the Google and VZW location services are turned off in your gps settings.
    Before doing these 2 things, my RAZR would die in 8 hours with very light usage. Now after 8 hours of very light usage. I am still 80-90%.
    Also, the stock task manager is useful. But it only kills apps while the phone is asleep. When you wake it up, the apps restart.


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