Bad News of the Day: Motorola is Installing a 'Root Checker' on VZW ICS Devices

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    We have some mildly annoying news to share with you regarding rooted Verizon Motorola devices. Motorola, at Verizon's request, has been installing "root checker" software on all Motorola devices that run Ice Cream Sandwich. This includes the Droid RAZR, RAZR MAXX, the Droid 4, and will include the Bionic once ICS rolls out for it. This "root checker" will basically allow any Big Red employee to check to see if your phone has ever been rooted. If they determine that it has it will likely void the warranty. Here's a quote with a full description,

    Now, obviously, there's no guarantee that a Verizon store employee would necessarily punish someone who brought in their phone for a legitimate hardware problem that had nothing to do with the rooting; however, it puts them in the position of doing so at Verizon's discretion. We thought you would want to know.

    Thanks for the tip, bsweetness!

    Updated: Apparently, the root checker is already installed on ICS Moto devices.

    Source: Android.net via PhoneArena
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2012
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    So, that's what that thing in Recovery is.
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    Another reason to have best buy insurance!
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    What about those who get a replacement used by others, and coincidently the original owner rooted and unrooted ur so called replacement?
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    There's probably some way to reset the counter outright. Most likely though, it'll probably take a huge workaround.

    Breakfast beats worrying.
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    Good point. Another thing to be sure to do when buying a third party phone. 1) Check ESN. 2) Boot to recovery and check for root.
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    that is annoying.

    i wonder if VZW will insist other Manufactures to do this as well?

    B
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    So this mainly just affects us during the first year that we own the phone right? Insurance isnt through Verizon and if I have an issue with my phone it's $50 to get a new one.

    If they start checking the phone for insurance reasons, I'm going to take my phone swimming with me, it's not like theyre going to give me a new one at the store anyway. I'll get a refurb factory overnighted to me.
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    OMG, "root check" this :censored:
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    yet another reason im glad I just found a Galaxy Nexus on ebay 100% functional for less than $200....and im selling my bionic. No more motorola for me...and come February no more Verizon for me either.
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    Kinda old news really and it was only a matter of time they start pulling this on us. Curious if anyone who has rooted has Fastbooted back to stock to see what it displays once fastbooted if you had been root prior to fastbooting.
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    wonders if an SBF would reset that ?? My bionic on an ICS leak already has that :)
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    One more reason to hate Verizon:icon_ devil:
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    Lol... Agreed, but from what i gather from a few contacts i have soon we can all start hating all the carriers as this may become the new norm moving forward. Let hope this will NOT be the case tho.
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    Smdh...

    I'm so glad I got the S3:icon_ banana:
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    What does vzw have against moto? I mean this is ridiculous. Vzw does not do this with any other manufacturer. When my contract is up, goodbye vzw. Off contract band unlocked nexus devices only for me going forward.
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    the s3 has something similar called a flash counter but they found a way to reset it. it might be similar..... i dunno
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    Maybe they asked Moto to do it as a test bed. Since Moto was able to work the report into their script, Verizon will now be asking other Manufacturers to do the same thing.

    I just unrooted with Super SU. Wiped the cache and still showed 1/1.

    I did not unroot bc of this information. They were already collecting that information on me since May by way of bug2go. I opened up a report from back in May and sure enough, it had reported that my phone was rooted. I unrooted because I want to run my corporate email on my Bionic and not on a pos Blackberry. The first time I installed the software it froze and wiped itself after it determined I was rooted. So I unrooted and reinstalled the software. All is good.

    The carriers are not going to make a big stink about rooting. If it were to go to court and they had to answer questions about not allowing customers to remove bloatware, they would look bad. This will be a battle between the phone's devs and the outside devs for years to come just like the radar detector/radar gun people.
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    I would imagine it does, as I thought it replaced everything on the phone. I know it at least did back on my D1...
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    This is why u fxz a phone before returning the device u do not unroot then send it back an fxz will completely wipe the phone to out of the factory state an i mean a fulll fxz meaning unedited to save data or internal storage
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