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AT&T has iPhone until 2012

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    Take a look at AT&T has iPhone exclusivity until 2012 - CNN.com

    It was speculative before given the lack of independent confirmation, but now apparently Apple has gone on record to confirm that the original deal signed with AT&T for iPhone exclusivity back in 2007 was a five-year deal. That means at least some legal hoops would need jumping through if we're ever going to see that oft-rumored Verizon iPhone before 2012.


    Kinda funny; AT&T's release of the iPhone is December 2012 and the Mayan calendar (and the Earth, some believe) ends in December 2012.
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    I think this is good news for Android devotees. AT&T's data capacity is already strained, and they have a terrible reputation for dropped calls. iPhone exclusivity will only add to the stress (not to mention the iPad's data needs), further destroying AT&T's reputation. I happen to know someone who wants an iPhone 3G very badly, but refuses to hop onto AT&T.

    This only cements Google's dominance in smartphone OS territory, as a Verizon iPhone would cannibalize sales of the Droid/Incredible, even though the new iPhone will decimate Android's sales numbers in the short term.

    And that Mayan end-of-the-world thing is a load of BS. People really believe in that? Did they believe in Y2K also? How about the predictions of Nostradamus? Go read a book, people.
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    The iphone will come to Verizon once Verizon finally moves past CDMA.
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    By the time the iPhone makes it off of AT&T it will no longer be relevant. Right now Android is selling more units per quarter, starting with Q1/2010, than Apple. With the release of the Incredible and EVO 4G, Q2/2010 will be wrapped up tight as well. Granted the impending release of the new iPhone will cause some hoopla but truthfully will not make much of an impact at all on Android sales. Then by the time Q4/2010 rolls around and we see the first Cortex A-9 based handsets it is pretty much game over for Apple.
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    I wish "iPhone" was a censored word on this forum. I am sick of hearing about it. No disrespect meant to the OP. I know it's a relevant story, just expressing my opinion.
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    The new iPhone will sell well only because it is the shiny new Apple iPhad device. Most people that will be purchasing that device will be current iPhone owners. Granted they will get new customers with it but nothing to the extent of what Android will get. People are getting wise to Apple and more and more are questioning whether purchasing a device for them is a good idea. Whereas more and more people that leave the iPhone for a Droid/Inc/pick a flavor have nothing but praise for Android and the devices it runs on.
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    That reminds me of the Coke/Pepsi cola wars. Statistics prove one is more popular based on the amount drunk, but they include numbers from fast food restaurants where only brand is available.

    Statistics showing how popular AT&T is includes iPhone sales. Remove the iPhone from AT&T and we may see something like an end of the world to them.

    I hear you (as the OP). I posted this mainly because I've seen posts from people wondering on getting a phone now or waiting until the iPhone comes to Verizon (some were thinking later this year).
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    I really wouldn't count Apple out of the game so easily. Like Google, they have tons of capital to buy start-ups, and a die-hard fan base that is growing. They recently purchased PA Semi, which we shouldn't underestimate. Google countered that move by purchasing Agnilux, but no one's sure what the pipeline will bring.

    A huge advantage Apple has over Google is that they have absolute control over the integration of hardware and software, something Goog is not yet capable of doing. The Nexus One doesn't even come close.
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    Umm... PA Semi? Agnilux? This is important why? All they did was buy up some talent. You do realize how ARM licensing works, right? If not here is the breakdown. ARM Holdings does not sell chips, it sells manufacturing licenses. TI, Qualcomm, PA Semi, Agnilux and just about everyone + dog that makes an ARM SoC has a manufacturing license. This means they can make and improve on the architecture however they like. So now that Apple owns PA Semi they can manufacture their own ARM SoC to use and sell to the public. No more, no less.
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    Thanks for the post, I wasn't aware of that! I think those holding off for a Verizon iPhone will now jump to the Incredible :)
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    perfect timing with the end of my contract for the droid! ;)
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    You do realize that by the time the iPhone sees the light of day on Verizon there will be TONS of Cortex A-9 based Android devices? In english.

    Dual Core 800Mhz to 1Ghz, superscalar, Out of Order Processing with plenty of ROM and RAM to make anyone happy. HDMI out, 1080p ON CHIP encoding AND decoding, etc... It would be at least two to three orders of magnitude greater in processing and graphics power than the upcoming iPhone 4G. Which will be the defacto Apple iDevice until June/July 2011 which is when you will see the first Cortex A-9 handsets. Oh and one more thing. The dual core 800Mhz A-9s have the SAME power consumption of similarly clocked Cortex A-8. The reason is better power management and a smaller die size. A little food for thought, that's all.
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    2012, eh?

    I wish it was indefinate. Keep the iphone off the vz network. I used to want an iPhone,>>got Droid,>>Now, I do not want an iPhone. They can keep it. I'm not any fan boy. I just have a serious Jones for good gadget and since they made me Jones so hard during their 'exclusivity' that I got an ipodtouch to sedate myself, they can keep the iphizzle now. An Oc'd and themed Droid on a good network is the fix and I can tether the touch whenever need be.
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    IPhone falling to the number 3

    With the IPhone falling to the number 3 spot behind Android, maybe people will start hollering they want Android and drop the IPhone once they realize the potential behind it. Not enough choices with the Apple OS and phone selections, but with Android, there is more coming.:greendroid:


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    Think of Android circa 2008 as Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941 and Apple as Japan. It took 4 years and we all know how that ended.
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    :clap: Here's to AT&T keeping the iPhone......forever!
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    I can appreciate what you're saying, but do you really think Apple won't be a viable presence in the smartphone market within a year or two? "Game over for Apple" is a pretty definitive statement. Jobs is aggressively buying talent and IP because he knows iPhone dominance is threatened. He may be a control freak, but he's no dummy; sooner or later he will start taking risks to differentiate the iPhone from Android phones.

    No doubt that Android will constantly be leap-frogging phones through the next few years; I also believe the iPhone 4G will be more susceptible to the effects of Moore's Law since they only release one phone per year. But many people who purchase smartphones are not aware of the differences between open-source vs. proprietary, advancement of ARM SoCs, etc. This will become more apparent as smartphones become ubiquitous.

    Average consumers know Apple to be the Mercedes-Benz of the computer products market. It's the same reason why one million people bought a $500-700 iPad in the first month when it has the functionality of a crippled laptop. Apple's not going away anytime soon.
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    I wouldn't say game over as in no more apple but within the next 12 to 18 months they will relegated to last in market share. Apple has been relying too much on gullible consumers and advertising and that is changing in a hurry although from seeing the ipad and what is to be the next iphone, apple hasn't changed at all. That is what will cause apple to fall.
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    that is great news, honestly because then i wont be jealous of it.. i love the droid, but if my friends had an iphone i would be jealous of the apps at times. now, i cant be jealous. also, someone said when verizon gets off cdma, is that ever going to happen? i wish we had sim cards, but is that even slightly realistic?
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