Apple is falling

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  1. jntdroid

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    FWIW, I do also think the 5S is a nice upgrade. Every "S" has been a minor, but still solid upgrade... the 3GS was much better than the 3G, 4S than the 4, etc. I think the 5S is right on par with those upgrades (if not a bit more). I'm especially interested in the camera in the 5S, as well as the motion chip.
     
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    My wife would have preferred the color choices, it would have been $100 dollars cheaper for the same thing, and the plastic looks durable enough to forgo the cost of an extra case.
     
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    Forgot to mention pc I see what you are saying in regards to pricing. The price point of the 5C isn't going to get the iPhone penetration into the midrange smartphone segment. It should see strong sales in the states but overseas in developing markets like China people simply can't afford it. I think Apples stock dropped because of this. Investors were probably hoping for a lower priced iPhone (pure speculation)

    Android is more successful in emerging markets because there are plenty of low end smartphones
     
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    Here is my take on yesterday's presentation.. innovative regarding the fingerprint scanner on the iphone 5s.. Hmm anyone remember the HP Ipaq series???
     
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    I think the upgrades to the 5s are more significant than any of the other S in the past. I was expecting the hardware upgrades to the CPU, camera, or whatever else have you. The fingerprint scanner was the curveball. Everywhere I read about the phone had that being as a notification light, but it far surpassed that rumor.

    edit: And for someone who finds the extra security measures for a lock screen to be a pain, this idea appeals to me and I am jealous of it. However, I want to see this feature in action and see if it's one of those cases if it's too good to be true. Also if any flaws will be discovered with it.
     
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    Gotcha - I guess I'm coming at this under the assumption that the iPhone 5 would've been dropped to $100 just like the 5C is.
     
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    is the fingerprint scanner innovative, no but like dezy pointed out it is a nice idea especially putting it on the home button. Dezy good point because I overlooked that and have to give apple kudos for that idea.

    Ck to your last post, exactly. I wasnt down playing the plastic because you right to have a cheaper iphone in different colors would be marketable because of the teenage population. But dezy put it perfect in that you have the s for high range, have the 5 for mid range, and have the 5c for low range. Now I have to admit that my 199 price point was low for even the iphone 5c being the 5s is going to sell for 699 (16 gb model), the 5 would drop about 100 bucks to about 599, so I am thinking 399 would be about what I would have expected the iphone 5c to be off contract.
     
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    I don't know the iphone 5 built wise did a great job on drop tests. But I am interested in seeing how the polycarbonate handles drop tests and real world wear and tear.
     
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    Maybe they are not that interested in emerging markets, I dunno. It's obvious they aren't looking to penetrate emerging markets, but "why?" is my biggest question. Maybe they know they can't compete with Windows Phone and Android in these markets so why bother. I don't know.

    They will see increased margins when selling the 5C so maybe that's their bottom line. It's a mystery.....to me at least :)
     
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    But the purpose of the 5c, at least from what I gather, was to penetrate into emerging markets which is where samsung and htc is doing well. I think they didnt do enough home work in those markets.
     
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    Is not the same phone as the 5. it loses the metal build and sapphire glass lens.
    Those I'm sure are two decent cost savers. Don't agree with this.
    I have an I phone 5 the build will quality is very very good. Hope this raises the value of it!
    Getting a note 3 next I think.
     
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    I tend to agree as well. They have nothing new to offer other than an ungraded CPU in the 5S and a more polished OS. Most of my co-workers that currently own the fruity phone are dumping them quickly. Not one showed the least bit of interest in yesterday's launch. Times have changed since 2007; that's one of Apple's faults. They still think it's '07. I had a bet with a friend of mine. By the end of 2013 Apple's stocks would drop below $500.00 It's only September and they are almost there. Just think in mid 2012 they were close to $1K a share. Apple meet Blackberry..... Time to wake up Mr. Cook
     
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