Advanced task killer/apps running

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    Never had a task killer, so loaded atk. I notice when I open it up inotice a bunch of apps ruining and I have to keep killing them.why do these apps keep re starting? Is there a way in atk to auto keep them off until I turn them on?
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    What apps are you referring to? Some need to run.

    Mike
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    There really is no need to have a task killing app. Linux systems are made to handle memory different than typical Windows does, which is what the majority of people are familiar with, and why we compulsively want to kill every single background process.

    I've been running completely fine without any task killer and I've found that changing settings like window animations (settings > sound & display > animation) will have a better effect on overall speed.
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    I had no need for a task killing app. Then I installed Pandora.
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    As noted many times, the term "running" is inaccurate. What you are seeing are apps that are "in memory." They are there because (a) they need to run periodically to collect information; (b) they have been run sometime in the past and the o/s doesn't need the memory space they are consuming; or (c) the developer believes that you may want instantaneous response and has designed the app to hang around in case you need it and it isn't interfering with other o/s needs.

    DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEM!
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    I know I went through all the Settings when I first got my phone, but I guess I had no idea what this was for and just ignored. Just tried changing it on and off a few times and I am definitely liking it off. Any other cool tips? Thanks!
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    Important to note the difference between an automated task killer and a process viewer which let's you kill tasks(manual task killer).

    The manual ones are sometimes needed to kill rogue programs that will run forever once you launch them or that are otherwise hung up. The automated task killers are defeating the purpose of having a smooth-running system. They run in the background to kill idle tasks which weren't using CPU. The thing to do is not install apps that launch on startup in the first place if you can help it. This includes: no automated task killers, no anitivirus, no widgets, etc. if you can help it.
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    I may be wrong about this, (I don't have it and probably never will) but isn't Pandora one of those apps that's hard to close?
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    Pandora has a "Quit" button that has always worked for me. Maybe sometimes it acts funky? I don't know. I don't use it that much.
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    You absolutely do not need to kill apps!!!! ATK and their ilk actually slow down the Android OS more than they help it. Trust me.
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    What if a process hangs due to an odd error or just crappy app? Sometimes it might be nice to launch a process viewer to kill the monstrosity other than having to reboot. For example, I use K9 now but when I was using the stock Email app I believe I sometimes had to kill that sucker and restart it.

    Anyway, I agree that the automated task killers don't makes sense. Process viewers, however are a natural part of any sophisticated OS. Ctrl+alt+del...
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    Here is the problem though, before I got Atk my battery would wear out in no time. Now with using this and leaving the applications I need running my battery will last all day. I don't have anything set up on my calendar or alarm and what not. There shouldn't be any reason for them to run at all. I understand that some applications need to run together, however why aren't they closing when they are done? Why have stuff that is not used constantly running and draining my battery? Something needs to change on this so that the battery lasts like my battery does with the atk.
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    What does your phone say is using the battery? Working from hard data is usually more effective than shotgunning and just trying different things.
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    If posts on this board were based on "hard data" there would be almost none of these threads.
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    Good point.
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    It says the display is at 61%, Browser is at 19% (which I am closing), Android system 8%, Cell standby 4%, msn talk 3%, Voice Search 3% (why is this app even open?), Phone Idle 2%, ATK 2%.

    Of course I am still working on figuring things out for my phone, but what I am centered around lately is to get the battery to last longer. I have and am still doing the battery drain to where the phone shuts off and then charging it overnight so it trains the battery. I just wish it would last longer.
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    Your browser will stop using battery power if you stop browsing. You don't need to kill it. And your display will stop using battery power if you stop looking at your phone. If that seems extreme, try setting the display to a dimmer setting.

    If you're absolutely committed to managing this stuff, I suggest you replace ATK with an app called "System Panel." It will allow you to kill tasks if you insist on doing so. It will use about the same battery charge as ATK and it will provide you with a far better UI to see what your phone is actually doing.

    If you keep an eye on the processes running on your phone you'll be able to see which are actually using cpu cycles versus those that are simply sitting in memory and doing no harm.
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    Ok thanks. I just do a lot on my phone, so I am always looking at the best way to make it run better. :)
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    Didn't mean to sound snarky in my response. Just keep in mind that using your phone uses your battery and the greatest single battery drain is almost always your display.

    Unusual battery drains usually include (a) GPS seeking a signal; (b) Wifi seeking a signal; (c) 3G seeking a signal; and (d) apps that "synch" or download data (e.g. news feeds, facebook updates, etc.) whether you're using them or not. You can usually control all of these with the standard power widget.

    Another well-known power drain is the use of navigation. It combines the drains associated with seeking GPS location data and downloading map information. It can be a battery killer relatively quickly. If you're going to use it, get a cable or plug for your car's lighter and use it only when you have power.

    Finally, do yourself a favor a buy an additional battery. They sell for less than $15 on Amazon. Throw in a standalone battery charger for another $15 and you've solved your battery problem indefinitely if you can get to a charging source every day or so.
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