Adobe AIR and You (Or why this is important)

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  1. zudien

    zudien Member

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    It seems like the buzz around here is either about 2.1 or integrated Flash in the browser.

    However with the announcement today that AIR will be included on mobile platforms, this is something to be more excited about.

    I posted this in another thread:

    With the inclusion of AIR we are gonna see some sweet stuff.

    Basically AIR (Adobe Intergrated Runtime) is an environment that is cross platform and incorporates AJAX, Flash, HTML. So if Adobe pushes out AIR to phones a developer could theoretically write one applications and have it run on all the major phone OS's.

    This makes it more worthwhile for the developer and the app envy we sometimes have of other phones will be become less and less common.

    Here's some info on AIR
    Adobe Integrated Runtime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Adobe Shows Flash and AIR Apps for Google Android - PCWorld This link has a cool video showing AIR being used on the Droid running a couple applications.

    and finally

    AIR For Android, And Adobe’s Plan To Deliver Apps Across All Mobile Devices

    AIR is already pretty mature on the desktop/laptop/netbook platform here's a link to some things you can try right now
    Adobe Marketplace - Welcome to the Adobe Marketplace.
     
  2. R1Lover

    R1Lover Senior Member

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    how many threads do we need on this?
     
  3. zudien

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    12.

    It works better that way.
     
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    I understand.

    AIR > Flash
     
  5. zudien

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    Actually techinically

    AIR = Flash.

    However Flash is only going to give us the ability to play intergrated videos and some small games and see websites that were otherwise unavailable. Also get spammed by huge flash advertisements that were poorly coded. Not a huge jump.

    AIR will create a multi phone platform to develop apps. We will see an influx of good looking apps that aren't as resource heavy.
     
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    It does look pretty sweet:icon_ banana: I can't hold it in.... :)
     
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    AIR is stupid and shouldn't exist. It duplicates the functionality of Flash, it gives you one more thing to keep updated, it's slow and clunky, and "an environment that is cross platform and incorporates AJAX, Flash, HTML" sounds a whole lot like "web browser."

    AIR is Adobe's me-too attempt at cross platform capability, and apparently they wanted to cast of the stigma of Flash which has been beaten to death. The biggest problem is that Adobe is HORRIBLE at developing such software.
     
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    LOL this is like the 9th thread on Adobe AIR... OP: we get it we get it, AIR is great :icon_ devil:

    that being said, i'm interested where this will go. the demos from Adobe's site (OP's link?) aren't so impressive
     
  9. zudien

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    Of course it duplicates the functionality of flash. It's part of the environment. Thats like saying java duplicates the functionality of AJAX.

    Also since the later updates they have improved the speed. Also it's up to the developer to keep the program up to speed and keep it from being clunky. In fact I still find Java to be more "slow and clunky" than AIR does especially on other platforms.

    The big difference is that it is a standalone runtime environment that allows you to run a program independent of a web browser. I guess if you have no problem running web applications then this wouldn't be a big deal.

    However AIR on a mobile platform will allow you to run applications natively while giving greater functionality of being able to use more phone resources, not just what the browser allows you to.

    Of course nothing in AIR is unduplicable from a natively coded application but what it does is gives a decent cross platform environment to develop programs so you can have a greater distribution with less work overall.

    I am not an Adobe fanboy. However the stigma of flash is due to incapable software developers. With the exception of a couple security holes (some of which are still open), flash has still been on the edge of development. Flash is a privately developed platform which allows it to push ahead instead of something like HTML which is voted on by members for standardization and distribution.

    However developing AIR couldn't destroy the "stigma of Flash" because Flash is integral to AIR applications.

    I would say that Adobe isn't horrible at developing such software because of the distribution of said software. They are the market leader. With the finalization of HTML5 (which will duplicate some flash features with <canvas>) you will see another development in the Adobe camp to keep it up to date.

    Flash has it's flaws but most I see are from developers then on Adobe side.
     
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    Yes I posted in that thread and wanted to seperate the flash plugin and AIR topic.

    For you the difference between flash and AIR is that with flash you could watching the video in a browser with flash and limited to the browser. However with AIR you could watch the same video in it's own application and allow you to have personalization settings (bandwith, color, scrolling sports scores, social networking, ETC) . The main functionality is duplicated of course but the environment factor is increased significantly in AIR.
     
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