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A must read for all vzw customers.. Thunderbolt owners beware ¡

Discussion in 'Thunderbolt Tech Support' started by konellaz, Nov 22, 2011.

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    Please take the time to read.

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    Also pass it along... Thank you

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    Blah blah blah. Just read the whole thing and still don't get why this affects my phone, unlimited data, network coverage, etc. Can someone explain what all this means in English? I don't fully understand smartphonese....

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    Thanks to Verizon your phone is not running at its full potential because they want to be greedy and not have you try new things out that will cause you not to spend money on them, so they locked your bootloader. According to the law in this article, it is illegal for them to deny unlimited data plans to thunderbolt users because our devices are on the 700mhz band, or block C.

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    I have unlimited data. I tether, and use the heck out of my unlimited data plan. They aren't slowing me down at all?

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    I filled out the FCC form. Although I'm probably not ever going to use a huge amount of data on a monthly basis, I think there's validity in making sure that we exercise our rights as consumers so big companies can't take advantage of the general consumer. If we let big companies steamroll us, what good are all the laws they're supposed to be held accountable to anyway? If I get any phone calls from the FCC or VZ, I'll update my post with details. Thanks OP!
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    Not sure what a bootloader is. I'm stock, so, do I use a bootloader?

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    Yes, you have a bootloader. It's a type of program electronic devices use that load the main program the device needs to function. Each time you power up your phone, the bootloader in your phone loads stuff before functions on the phone can be used. Your home computer is similar.

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    Is the Rezound on the same band/block? It has a lot of other similarities... SVDO, ability to switch from ehrpd to evdo, etc...

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    Thanks for answering that. Does anyone have a direct link to the FCC form? Thanks.

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    No problem! Go to the article at the beginning of this thread and in the article is a link to the FCC site and Form.

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    Wow, an amazing eye opening read. Verizon disobeys law regulations, and at least for one phone denies the manufacturer and user legally bound rights as per how the phone may be operated? I can see now why they allow grandfathered unlimited plans access to continued unlimited after upgrading to a 4G capable device, and that is that they know what it is they've done.

    Verizon may just be the most disrespectful and evil carrier in the US
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    I wonder if that's why Thunderbolt owners have been successful at getting Mobile Hotspot with Unlimited Data for internet and personal email even though the Unlimited Data Plan was discontinued in June.

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    Oops, correction to my post - it was in the Bionic threads where I learned how to request the hotspot plan with unlimited data. It's not just Thunderbolt owners.

    Apologies for my error and multiple posts.

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    This is just another instance of a company that's too big to worry about the law.
    Its cheaper for them in the short and long term to simply shaft the customer base
    and *maybe*, if they are really unlucky, have to pay some pittance as a penalty.

    And we are generally powerless to stop it. What are your options? Switch to AT&Fee?
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    does this mean they are trying to force us to pay full price for a newer phone or force us off of our unlimited data plans?
    Is this an opt out of our contracts or even a reason for them to give us an early upgrade?
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    Whatever makes us the most money. If we break a few laws along the way, what are you going to do about it?
    File an FCC complaint that will be ignored? Sue a multi-billion company with a team of lawyers so large,
    smaller groups of lawyers orbit around them? Maybe you'll take your business to AT&T, an even worse option.
    So shut up and pay thru the nose for *unlimited* internet and pray we do not alter the deal any further....
    -Verizon


    I think pretty well sums up VZW's position on this.
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    I haven't heard any updates on the complaints to the FCC. Has anyone else?

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