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    Honestly I'm not terribly bummed that VZW didn't get the Nexus 4. I've never had anything but horrible results from LG devices. And if Nexus does become exclusive, I'll be trying my best to follow. That said I've seen multiple things saying cdma is harder to update. Especially here lately regarding reasons they are behind on updates. Hopefully they catch up and with this phone still having a seemingly long life can redeem themselves into another in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezymond View Post
    IMO, the SGN was a "test" for Google on Verizon's network. I've always heard it was more difficult to update due to cdma technology, I don't know if that's true or not, but considering it's the only cdma network that had a Nexus, I guess it's true. Verizon had a huge opportunity to really get support from Google/Android by really pushing the Nexus, but look how that turned out. Not one word before launch and delayed multiple times. Even after launch there was like 1 commercial for it compared to the handful of commercials promoting their Droid lineup.

    I honestly don't know if they'll get another Nexus, no one does. All we know is they don't have the Nexus 4 and no word of a cdma version coming (at least I haven't heard anything). Maybe it's their choice of cdma that's holding them back. Maybe it's the way they handled the SGN. Who really knows? As badly as the SGN is supported by the Big Red we all know one thing, money talks. And if Verizon brings the money to Google to get another Nexus device, I doubt Google would turn that opportunity down. Verizon could've had it good by now if they hadn't botched the SGN so badly. First to get the device and they royally screwed it up for themselves.

    Also I read recently that Google and DirectTV (I think it was them) are planning on a mobile network? If that's so, then maybe the Nexus line becomes an exclusive thing?
    Sprint had both the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus, and it's a CDMA network.

    CDMA phones do require some proprietary programming, so in that sense they are more difficult to update. A carrier unbranded device, like the Nexus 4, is much easier and faster to update because it's designed to be able to switch from SIM to SIM and from network to network. Updates for a CDMA device have to be designed with the particular network they're going to be running on in mind. They can't just be left open in the same way that GSM can. Because of that, a true Nexus device, with fast and direct updates from Google, on a CDMA network was always a pipe dream. Add Verizon's notoriously obsessive involvement with updates to that, and it's just a recipe for disappointment. Even Sprint, who isn't nearly as bad as Verizon when it comes to updates, can't keep their versions on par with a GSM Nexus.
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    android 1.4 vzw htc eris > n4 4.2 on tmo.... wanna know why...... coverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsweetness View Post
    Sprint had both the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus, and it's a CDMA network.

    CDMA phones do require some proprietary programming, so in that sense they are more difficult to update. A carrier unbranded device, like the Nexus 4, is much easier and faster to update because it's designed to be able to switch from SIM to SIM and from network to network. Updates for a CDMA device have to be designed with the particular network they're going to be running on in mind. They can't just be left open in the same way that GSM can. Because of that, a true Nexus device, with fast and direct updates from Google, on a CDMA network was always a pipe dream. Add Verizon's notoriously obsessive involvement with updates to that, and it's just a recipe for disappointment. Even Sprint, who isn't nearly as bad as Verizon when it comes to updates, can't keep their versions on par with a GSM Nexus.
    Had no idea Sprint had the Galaxy Nexus, thanks for clearin that up
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    Haha, the Eris sucked. That was my first android smartphone. Worked fine till that OS update came out and then after that my wife's BB blew it away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaynesgnex View Post
    Haha, the Eris sucked. That was my first android smartphone. Worked fine till that OS update came out and then after that my wife's BB blew it away.
    My original was the G1 from T-Mobil (before I switched). Cracked the screen 2 weeks after I got it and never fixed it to this day
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezymond View Post
    Had no idea Sprint had the Galaxy Nexus, thanks for clearin that up
    Sprints updates for the Galaxy Nexus have been later than the HSPA updates, but not much faster than VZW's updates... maybe a week or 2. So I'm buying into the "it takes longer" reason for CDMA. But once we don't need a 3G radio anymore will that SIM card that is in our GNEX's (and other 4G devices) allow us to swap devices around easier and facilitate updates on Nexus devices easier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WookieClaws View Post
    Sprints updates for the Galaxy Nexus have been later than the HSPA updates, but not much faster than VZW's updates... maybe a week or 2. So I'm buying into the "it takes longer" reason for CDMA. But once we don't need a 3G radio anymore will that SIM card that is in our GNEX's (and other 4G devices) allow us to swap devices around easier and facilitate updates on Nexus devices easier?
    That's what I'm thinking. That's how I used to swap phones on AT&T many moons ago, just swap the SIM cards. Hassle free and made for switching phones easier. Then again this was all the way back in middle school so my memory may be a bit foggy and maybe it wasn't THAT simple.
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    Re: Nexus 4 global/LTE

    Quote Originally Posted by WookieClaws View Post
    Sprints updates for the Galaxy Nexus have been later than the HSPA updates, but not much faster than VZW's updates... maybe a week or 2. So I'm buying into the "it takes longer" reason for CDMA. But once we don't need a 3G radio anymore will that SIM card that is in our GNEX's (and other 4G devices) allow us to swap devices around easier and facilitate updates on Nexus devices easier?
    Theoretically yes. Once Verizon completely switches over to LTE, including for voice, everything in regards to switching SIM cards should operate in pretty much the same way as GSM phones currently do. But, in order for that to work, the phones must have Verizon's LTE bands. With the ridiculous number of incompatible LTE bands currently being used, there's no telling how things will work out later on.

    So, once Verizon moves completely to LTE for everything, Verizon customers should be able to use any unlocked LTE device that supports Verizon's bands. I say should because I wouldn't put it past Verizon to try to find a loophole that allows them to block the activation of devices that aren't theirs.

    Either way, that possibility is still a few years off.
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