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Thread: Fascinate: Rooted, Lagfix and Quardrant

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    I was correct. The Galaxy S phones use the PowerVR SGX540 GPU while the Droid, Droid 2 and Droid X use the PowerVR SGX530. Even the iPhone 3gs has a more powerful phone than the Droid X with its PowerVR SGX535.

    Basically, the Fascinate can do 90 million triangles a second while the Droid can only do 7 million triangles a second. That is of course a stock Droid with its CPU and GPU running at slower speeds that the Droid X, but I would say the Fascinate is still 3-5 times more powerful than the Droid X when it comes to GPU horsepower.


    The LG and Samsung phones due out in Q4 of 2010/Q1 of 2011 are going to be dual-core CPU with a better GPU and will have EQUAL power of the PS3 at around 300 million triangles a second.

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    Here's the Linpack. The rooting instructions and lagfix came from the forum.
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    How are you scoring so high? I only got 7. I'm rooted and did the lagfix as well.
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    Just Don't Know To Think

    I would agree with it being something to do with the graphics chip also. Hell I want to get to the bottom of this as well cause I don"t understand it myself, so to explain this I can't. I rooted the phone and simply installed the Lagfix only and from there, it is what it is. We're all brothers and sisters on this site trying to help each other when we can, not lie and cheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJORDAN View Post
    I would agree with it being something to do with the graphics chip also. Hell I want to get to the bottom of this as well cause I don"t understand it myself, so to explain this I can't. I rooted the phone and simply installed the Lagfix only and from there, it is what it is. We're all brothers and sisters on this site trying to help each other when we can, not lie and cheat.
    It is the graphics chip. Quadrant bases a lot of it's score off of graphics, and the triangles the Fascinate can handle is at the top of the heap of what's available right now.

    As for Linpack, my D1 Oc'd to 1ghz scores around 13.85mflps
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    I just find it curious that the exact same phone with the only difference being the apps installed would have such a variance.
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    If you root how do you unroot in case anything happens.
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    Rooted and LagFix
    Love this phone!!!! Rooted and applied Lagfix and Quadrant is 2k and above up to 2300 Bing has been bonged, maybe it's not a word but you know what I mean and Google Search rules this phone. DAME THIS PHONE IS FAST!!!. Own rooted D1 and tried DX and D2 and returned them both days later. Wife hates it because the phone is forever in my hands. Well, love her but all I can say is, "Honey it's not going back!"
    I just got moist. Definitely picking this sucka up this weekend.
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    Just to clarify. The insane quadrant scores are coming from the lagfix. It creates a virtual file system, which in this case means most of the second to second io events never hit the underlying file system, apart from raw read/write. This will make the phone score higher, and indeed feel faster. But, Quadrant currently gives too much weight to IO scores for their tests, they weren't built for it. It's like measuring contrast ratio on a true OLED screen, the blacks are so black, the numbers become meaningless, or mathematically impossible in some cases (yay division by zero). The tests just weren't meant to measure that.

    Take a look at the green section of the first two quadrant graphs, that's your IO score.

    Quote Originally Posted by luv2increase
    I was correct. The Galaxy S phones use the PowerVR SGX540 GPU while the Droid, Droid 2 and Droid X use the PowerVR SGX530. Even the iPhone 3gs has a more powerful phone than the Droid X with its PowerVR SGX535.

    Basically, the Fascinate can do 90 million triangles a second while the Droid can only do 7 million triangles a second. That is of course a stock Droid with its CPU and GPU running at slower speeds that the Droid X, but I would say the Fascinate is still 3-5 times more powerful than the Droid X when it comes to GPU horsepower.
    Sentiment is correct, facts are well... The iPhone 3GS had basically the same SoC as the droid 1. More or less untouched Cortex A8 CPU, PowerVR SGX 530 GPU. Apple didn't start using the SGX 535 until the A4 SoC (iPad/iPhone4).

    Triangles/s are nearly meaningless. 1) the numbers aren't even being measured the same way. To bring them in line, it's more like ~80Mt/s for the 540, and ~14Mt/s for the 530. 2) there's more to overall performance than just triangles. I/O, shading, PP, etc. When all is said and done, real world performance is much closer (though still a blow out). The 540 is 1.5x-2x faster than the 530 in 3D. The chip itself has further potential, but you start hitting bandwidth walls fairly quickly. I'll post some DX quadrant screens shortly, they will absolutely pale in comparison to these, but it'll give a graphics performance baseline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobytl View Post
    Just to clarify. The insane quadrant scores are coming from the lagfix. It creates a virtual file system, which in this case means most of the second to second io events never hit the underlying file system, apart from raw read/write. This will make the phone score higher, and indeed feel faster. But, Quadrant currently gives too much weight to IO scores for their tests, they weren't built for it. It's like measuring contrast ratio on a true OLED screen, the blacks are so black, the numbers become meaningless, or mathematically impossible in some cases (yay division by zero). The tests just weren't meant to measure that.

    Take a look at the green section of the first two quadrant graphs, that's your IO score.

    Quote Originally Posted by luv2increase
    I was correct. The Galaxy S phones use the PowerVR SGX540 GPU while the Droid, Droid 2 and Droid X use the PowerVR SGX530. Even the iPhone 3gs has a more powerful phone than the Droid X with its PowerVR SGX535.

    Basically, the Fascinate can do 90 million triangles a second while the Droid can only do 7 million triangles a second. That is of course a stock Droid with its CPU and GPU running at slower speeds that the Droid X, but I would say the Fascinate is still 3-5 times more powerful than the Droid X when it comes to GPU horsepower.
    Sentiment is correct, facts are well... The iPhone 3GS had basically the same SoC as the droid 1. More or less untouched Cortex A8 CPU, PowerVR SGX 530 GPU. Apple didn't start using the SGX 535 until the A4 SoC (iPad/iPhone4).

    Triangles/s are nearly meaningless. 1) the numbers aren't even being measured the same way. To bring them in line, it's more like ~80Mt/s for the 540, and ~14Mt/s for the 530. 2) there's more to overall performance than just triangles. I/O, shading, PP, etc. When all is said and done, real world performance is much closer (though still a blow out). The 540 is 1.5x-2x faster than the 530 in 3D. The chip itself has further potential, but you start hitting bandwidth walls fairly quickly. I'll post some DX quadrant screens shortly, they will absolutely pale in comparison to these, but it'll give a graphics performance baseline.
    Thank you for that post. I wonder if anything like the lagfix could be implemented on the Droid X?

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
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