Higher capacity battery for milestone

[harunjo]

please note as far i know...this battery still have a limitation it only support 500 to 1000 times charging only..so after that you will need to buy another one..

but 500 to 1000 times charge cycle is still worthed i think..

Even if it is limited to 500 charges and provided that I charge my phone 2x a day it will take 500 days to waste the battery - by that time I will forget I have ever had a Moto Milestone - I will have a different phone.

However, this is a mobile thing, not something I will use on a daily basis and thus it will last much longer.

Also, I do not know where you took this information from since it has a Li-Ion battery which does not usually have a strict number of charging cycles to go dead like a NiMh or NiCd battery.

yes i know the litihium battery does not have a memory effect..i got that above info from seller..

and i still dont care..will buy another one if the external battery become sucks..

[Szadzik]

yes i know the litihium battery does not have a memory effect..i got that above info from seller..

and i still dont care..will buy another one if the external battery become sucks..

The seller has no idea what he is talking about probably, unless you asked about the other type of mobile booster by Sanyo which is operated by 2 AA batteries.

[harunjo]

my momax is arrived...

go to link below for the screenshot of package

Does anyone sell an extended battery yet?

[harunjo]

yes i know the litihium battery does not have a memory effect..i got that above info from seller..

and i still dont care..will buy another one if the external battery become sucks..

The seller has no idea what he is talking about probably, unless you asked about the other type of mobile booster by Sanyo which is operated by 2 AA batteries.

not just seller have that opinion ..motorola also have a same opinion about the battery charge cycle:

https://motorola-global-en-aus.custh...ted=1259768072

It is normal over time for battery life to decrease, and for the battery to exhibit shorter runtime between charges or require more frequent or longer charging times. Motorola batteries are designed to last between 350-700 charge/discharge cycles at room temperature. This amounts to approximately a year to a year and a half of battery use for most people.

[Szadzik]

not just seller have that opinion ..motorola also have a same opinion about the battery charge cycle:

Do you buy phones and own them for more than 2 years? If you do, than you can care about this problem, if you do not that simply foget about batteries getting worse.

P.S. I can only say that the Sanyo product I bought is definitely a better option than an additional battery.

[harunjo]

not just seller have that opinion ..motorola also have a same opinion about the battery charge cycle:

Do you buy phones and own them for more than 2 years? If you do, than you can care about this problem, if you do not that simply foget about batteries getting worse.

P.S. I can only say that the Sanyo product I bought is definitely a better option than an additional battery.

yes i had a plan to use this phone more than 2 years..and including the sanyo external battery

[Szadzik]

yes i had a plan to use this phone more than 2 years..and including the sanyo external battery

Lucky you, I would never keep a phone for more than a year.

In two years' tim ecome back here and tell us how much worse the battery life is. If you can notice it at all it will mean you got a really bad battery.

We are not in the 90s anymore where NiCd and NiMh batteries were used and you had to worry about it all the time. This is 2010 and such stuff is pretty good, lasts a long time and is cheap, so replacing a battery will not be a problem.
As for the sany, I would hope to have it for a few years too.

[dmo580]

yes i had a plan to use this phone more than 2 years..and including the sanyo external battery

Lucky you, I would never keep a phone for more than a year.

In two years' tim ecome back here and tell us how much worse the battery life is. If you can notice it at all it will mean you got a really bad battery.

We are not in the 90s anymore where NiCd and NiMh batteries were used and you had to worry about it all the time. This is 2010 and such stuff is pretty good, lasts a long time and is cheap, so replacing a battery will not be a problem.
As for the sany, I would hope to have it for a few years too.

Memory effect is a total different thing than Li-Ions having limited charge cycles. Memory effect states that if you constantly recharge at 50%, the battery life will condition itself so it will need a recharge by the time it takes you to get to 50%.

Li-Ions just like any other battery and chemistry, you can never fully recover energy. Thus over 300-500 recharge cycles, the battery will begin to degrade to about 80% of original health, and will plummet afterward.

I have a 6 year old Dell laptop that gets me about 30-40 minutes of battery off the plug. I remember getting 3.5 hrs or even 4.5 hrs with Wifi off. Yes its lithium ion. I think too many people confuse memory effect and think that they can charge their li-ion devices like mad. All it means is you don't have to fully drain your battery before charging (in fact li-ions like constant recharging... so its better to recharge at 80% than to wait for it to get to 20%).

[Szadzik]

yes i had a plan to use this phone more than 2 years..and including the sanyo external battery

Lucky you, I would never keep a phone for more than a year.

In two years' tim ecome back here and tell us how much worse the battery life is. If you can notice it at all it will mean you got a really bad battery.

We are not in the 90s anymore where NiCd and NiMh batteries were used and you had to worry about it all the time. This is 2010 and such stuff is pretty good, lasts a long time and is cheap, so replacing a battery will not be a problem.
As for the sany, I would hope to have it for a few years too.

Memory effect is a total different thing than Li-Ions having limited charge cycles. Memory effect states that if you constantly recharge at 50%, the battery life will condition itself so it will need a recharge by the time it takes you to get to 50%.

Li-Ions just like any other battery and chemistry, you can never fully recover energy. Thus over 300-500 recharge cycles, the battery will begin to degrade to about 80% of original health, and will plummet afterward.

I have a 6 year old Dell laptop that gets me about 30-40 minutes of battery off the plug. I remember getting 3.5 hrs or even 4.5 hrs with Wifi off. Yes its lithium ion. I think too many people confuse memory effect and think that they can charge their li-ion devices like mad. All it means is you don't have to fully drain your battery before charging (in fact li-ions like constant recharging... so its better to recharge at 80% than to wait for it to get to 20%).

I NEVER, EVER, EVER said Li-Ion batteries have memory effect!!!!!!

I said that NiMh and NiCd batteries degraded MUCH faster than Li-Ions.

[harunjo]

Lucky you, I would never keep a phone for more than a year.

In two years' tim ecome back here and tell us how much worse the battery life is. If you can notice it at all it will mean you got a really bad battery.

We are not in the 90s anymore where NiCd and NiMh batteries were used and you had to worry about it all the time. This is 2010 and such stuff is pretty good, lasts a long time and is cheap, so replacing a battery will not be a problem.
As for the sany, I would hope to have it for a few years too.

Memory effect is a total different thing than Li-Ions having limited charge cycles. Memory effect states that if you constantly recharge at 50%, the battery life will condition itself so it will need a recharge by the time it takes you to get to 50%.

Li-Ions just like any other battery and chemistry, you can never fully recover energy. Thus over 300-500 recharge cycles, the battery will begin to degrade to about 80% of original health, and will plummet afterward.

I have a 6 year old Dell laptop that gets me about 30-40 minutes of battery off the plug. I remember getting 3.5 hrs or even 4.5 hrs with Wifi off. Yes its lithium ion. I think too many people confuse memory effect and think that they can charge their li-ion devices like mad. All it means is you don't have to fully drain your battery before charging (in fact li-ions like constant recharging... so its better to recharge at 80% than to wait for it to get to 20%).

I NEVER, EVER, EVER said Li-Ion batteries have memory effect!!!!!!

I said that NiMh and NiCd batteries degraded MUCH faster than Li-Ions.

hey just cool man..we are here know already the lithium battery have no memory effect..but the peformance of lithium battery stil have a limit..

btw
here my screenshot of sanyo external battery

Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster w/ Xtra Strength KBC-L2S-SP

Description : Mobile Booster with Xtra Strength ( Built in with 2p'cs of Lithium ion batteries)
Capacity : Up to 5000 mah
Function : As mentioned bellow
Charging times : AC Adaptor - 7 hrs or USB Port - 14 hrs

Built-in with 2 pieces of Lithium Ion batteries, the mobile booster Xtra is compact yet high in power. It acts as a back-up power for any electronic devices when its power is running low.

Applicable for portable music players, portable games, mobile phones (most models) and electronic devices that can be charged through USB port.

Contains:
* Li-ion Battery with 2 USB outputs and 1 DC input (KBC-L2)
* AC Adapter (Euro 2 pin)
* USB cable for charging KBC-L2
* Instructions Manual