Wireless Moot

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Originally Posted by TominBristol

I find it very interesting that a roomful of VZW Execs find it necessary to develop counter proposals at all. Not the same old arrogance I'd come to expect from a carrier that has always (in the past) behaved as if they called the shots...all the shots.

Just from an outsider's view, looks like they recognize there's a new player in the game. If you think of it as some kinda barter, Google/Moto laid out their stance, now VZW prepares theirs and through various negotiations, eventually a deal is done.

Formerly VZW displayed NO interest in un-locking anything...looks like they now see they're gonna have too fall back from that stance.

A good sign for us consumers, yes?

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I agree. I have a feeling that GooMoto is in no mood for counters at this point....... Wouldn't surprise me if this ended in a creation of a GooMobile or GooWireless.

Am I the only one who keeps seeing the Pointy Haired Boss from Dilbert every time I hear about VZW and these ridiculous counter proposals?

If things come to blows, hopefully Samsung would also follow suit.. if they did it would be a nice horse-kick in the pills for VZW.

enough political jokes/stabs ...

Interesting. But none of this news today really wows me like on Friday. Any idea how long the negotiations will last?

Too long? What did I win? :D

I want ICS already!

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Originally Posted by symbiontsoul

Doesn't matter. If they fall back only by charging 20/30 bucks a month, most ppl can't afford that extra charge on a monthly basis on top of thier already high bill. Thus they get what they want anyway. Not to mention deterring ppl from developing. Samurai shouldn't have to pay an extra $30/mo to be able to contribute to the community.

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Don't worry. I won't. I'll simply switch carriers to one that's a bit more useful and consumer friendly. I hear Russian carriers allow more flexibility than VZW...

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Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Giddyup. Get the damn thing out already.

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Amen. I actually wonder why it takes so long for a soak/ota. I'd think something like that at a company that big would have a system that automates the whole process of release (copying to release servers, setting up the waves of updates (who gets it when), etc) and it would be done in a day or two.

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Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Don't worry. I won't. I'll simply switch carriers to one that's a bit more useful and consumer friendly. I hear Russian carriers allow more flexibility than VZW...

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LOL I didn't expect you would. Just making a point. Thanks for all the work you do though!

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Originally Posted by Comiskeybum

Interesting. But none of this news today really wows me like on Friday. Any idea how long the negotiations will last?

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Well vzw was given a 3 day deferment meaning moto/google arent in these meetings for the next 3 days it just vzw going over there options come thursday is when the gloves should come off

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Originally Posted by chucknorris101

Amen. I actually wonder why it takes so long for a soak/ota. I'd think something like that at a company that big would have a system that automates the whole process of release (copying to release servers, setting up the waves of updates (who gets it when), etc) and it would be done in a day or two.

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Lmao noooo there is alot more to the process than building the update getting vzw approval an then soaking it or pushing it out via ota