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    BB V0.4 versus Lithium Mod Comparison

    My BB 0.4 experience:
    I tried running BB 0.4 for a couple of weeks. The same day I installed BB I got the itch to try overclocking so I went big and tried Chevyno1 1.2Ghz ULV. Much to my surprise it ran flawlessly, well almost. 2 days later I got an application to force close. Nothing major, but I'm not willing so sacrifice stability for performance. I figured it was my kernel so I downgraded to 1.1GHz. After a day I also had another force close. Down to 1Ghz, same thing after a couple of days. I also began to notice that the BB toolkit would always force close. Lowered to 800mhz ULV and the BB toolkit problem went away. When the new version of Quandrant came out, it would force close during the benchmark! So I downgraded to 800mhz LV and then 800mhz MV. Finally it would work. But still I would get some force closes every day or so. One more thing, very occasionally the touch screen would become unresponsive. I would have to press the screen multiple times to get it to register. To be fair to BB, I didn't give the stock kernel much of a chance.

    My Lithium mod experience:
    I saw that Jrummy was conspiring with other devs to make the Lithium Mod, I knew I had to give it a try. First thing I noticed (other than a new launcher), was my battery life is easily 50% if not 100% better. Previously I was having to charge after 12 hours, now it is more like 24 hours. Funny that the kernel didn't seem to make a difference in battery life. I've only been running Lithium since yesterday, but I've noticed no force closes and no touch screen issues. This time I'm going to stick with the stock kernel a week to get a baseline of performance and stability. The quadrant scores aren't any higher (and may actually be lower than BB). However, the responsiveness seems better. This is worth more than any quadrant score (although it was fun to get a higher benchmark score than the nexus one 2.2+)
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    Quote Originally Posted by elucid View Post
    My BB 0.4 experience:
    I tried running BB 0.4 for a couple of weeks. The same day I installed BB I got the itch to try overclocking so I went big and tried Chevyno1 1.2Ghz ULV. Much to my surprise it ran flawlessly, well almost. 2 days later I got an application to force close. Nothing major, but I'm not willing so sacrifice stability for performance. I figured it was my kernel so I downgraded to 1.1GHz. After a day I also had another force close. Down to 1Ghz, same thing after a couple of days. I also began to notice that the BB toolkit would always force close. Lowered to 800mhz ULV and the BB toolkit problem went away. When the new version of Quandrant came out, it would force close during the benchmark! So I downgraded to 800mhz LV and then 800mhz MV. Finally it would work. But still I would get some force closes every day or so. One more thing, very occasionally the touch screen would become unresponsive. I would have to press the screen multiple times to get it to register. To be fair to BB, I didn't give the stock kernel much of a chance.

    My Lithium mod experience:
    I saw that Jrummy was conspiring with other devs to make the Lithium Mod, I knew I had to give it a try. First thing I noticed (other than a new launcher), was my battery life is easily 50% if not 100% better. Previously I was having to charge after 12 hours, now it is more like 24 hours. Funny that the kernel didn't seem to make a difference in battery life. I've only been running Lithium since yesterday, but I've noticed no force closes and no touch screen issues. This time I'm going to stick with the stock kernel a week to get a baseline of performance and stability. The quadrant scores aren't any higher (and may actually be lower than BB). However, the responsiveness seems better. This is worth more than any quadrant score (although it was fun to get a higher benchmark score than the nexus one 2.2+)
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    Correct, with petes rom you might as well run a leaked ROM. After moving over to source built ROM's I can never go back
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    One thing that I have noticed from source built roms is the cell signal issue. Stock, rooted, BB v0.4 do not have a major issue but all of the source roms I have tried have a weak signal to the cell towers. Anyone have an idea why?
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    no comparison lithium is a built from source rom with all kinds of customizations while bugless is a stock rom with some super tweaks

    Quote Originally Posted by elucid View Post
    My BB 0.4 experience:
    I tried running BB 0.4 for a couple of weeks. The same day I installed BB I got the itch to try overclocking so I went big and tried Chevyno1 1.2Ghz ULV. Much to my surprise it ran flawlessly, well almost. 2 days later I got an application to force close. Nothing major, but I'm not willing so sacrifice stability for performance. I figured it was my kernel so I downgraded to 1.1GHz. After a day I also had another force close. Down to 1Ghz, same thing after a couple of days. I also began to notice that the BB toolkit would always force close. Lowered to 800mhz ULV and the BB toolkit problem went away. When the new version of Quandrant came out, it would force close during the benchmark! So I downgraded to 800mhz LV and then 800mhz MV. Finally it would work. But still I would get some force closes every day or so. One more thing, very occasionally the touch screen would become unresponsive. I would have to press the screen multiple times to get it to register. To be fair to BB, I didn't give the stock kernel much of a chance.

    My Lithium mod experience:
    I saw that Jrummy was conspiring with other devs to make the Lithium Mod, I knew I had to give it a try. First thing I noticed (other than a new launcher), was my battery life is easily 50% if not 100% better. Previously I was having to charge after 12 hours, now it is more like 24 hours. Funny that the kernel didn't seem to make a difference in battery life. I've only been running Lithium since yesterday, but I've noticed no force closes and no touch screen issues. This time I'm going to stick with the stock kernel a week to get a baseline of performance and stability. The quadrant scores aren't any higher (and may actually be lower than BB). However, the responsiveness seems better. This is worth more than any quadrant score (although it was fun to get a higher benchmark score than the nexus one 2.2+)
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    [QUOTE=hookerdj;703453]no comparison lithium is a built from source rom with all kinds of customizations while bugless is a stock rom with some super tweaks

    What do you mean that bugless is stock with tweaks versus source rom? I have some basic software knowledge but I'm not sure what these terms mean i the context of android. I'm new to the scene so I'm not sure what all these versions mean and what source versus non-source means.

    Thanks in advance!
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    I am not new to all of this but to say that there is no comparison between source built and stock rom is hard for me to believe. There is an issue with the radio in the source rom that is not in the stock rom yet they all come from the same base code to begin with. There has to be a reason the source rom has a weak radio and the "stock" rom does not have a weak radio. This is what I am trying to understand and it seems no one understands. I love a lot of the source rom's but the radio issue is a killer for me.
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    I hope someone can inform elucid, as he demonstrates the ignorance of nearly the entirety of Bugless Beast users. Not trying to be mean lucid... just that Pete is distributing the most basic ROM, it's pretty much stock with a few tweaks. He's done a very good job moderating Android processes, and adding a few features. But the ROM's built from source take leaps and bounds away from what he is doing...
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    I agree, Bugless drains battery super fast. Lithium does not. But the worst part is Lithium won't connect to my cooperate email. People say try a 3rd party app but that defeats the purpose IMO. For some reason with Lithium I just can't connect my cooperate email account with exchange. So odd.

    If I could do this I'd be super happy with Lithium and use it for sure. But i'm back to just 2.1 rooted right now because of battery issues with BB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robs1011 View Post
    I agree, Bugless drains battery super fast. Lithium does not. But the worst part is Lithium won't connect to my cooperate email. People say try a 3rd party app but that defeats the purpose IMO. For some reason with Lithium I just can't connect my cooperate email account with exchange. So odd.

    If I could do this I'd be super happy with Lithium and use it for sure. But i'm back to just 2.1 rooted right now because of battery issues with BB.
    If your purpose is to get your corporate email onto your phone why does it matter what app you use to do it? All of the 3rd party apps that I've tried work much better than the native email app. The stock gmail app can at least be used, but the stock pop3/imap email program is almost totally unusable. That is why almost every custom rom comes with a built in script to remove it. Everyone uses K-9, Maildroid, and touchdown.
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