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    Available Memory / RAM Question

    I'm fairly new to the whole Droid scene (from a Blackberry Storm). Please let me know if this is 'normal' for a Droid X using Liberty 1.5...

    Upon bootup, I have 140-160mb of free RAM according to my Widgetsoid battery toggle. Within an hour or so it goes down to 35-60mb and the phone starts running more sluggish. This is without really running any strenuous apps. If I use Pandora, it drops a bit further.

    Is this normal?
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    No, not normal at all. I usually have 120 to 130mb free at all times of the day. I've never seen it go down like that.
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    80 TO 100MB lost in an hour? not normal. list the apps you have installed. Im usually down to 75 or 80 after about 16hrs of use, I reboot each morning to start afresh, What have you tweaked in Liberty? Maybe reflash to set everything back to stock and see what it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by droid fetish View Post
    80 TO 100MB lost in an hour? not normal. list the apps you have installed. Im usually down to 75 or 80 after about 16hrs of use, I reboot each morning to start afresh, What have you tweaked in Liberty? Maybe reflash to set everything back to stock and see what it does.
    I reboot multiple times each day as well. I previously had tried the Liberty Battery Tweak Framework, as well as the Sysctl changes listed on other threads. Since then I have SBF'ed the latest .340 fresh ROM and re-installed Liberty 1.5 with the Revolution Remix Theme. No other theme tweaks, except animation changes and ad blocking.

    Just rebooted, RAM showed 182MB free. The phone has been in standby for the last 10 minutes and it's down to 150MB free. Loaded the Applications Screen to show installed Applications and it's down to 130MB.

    Apps listed in the 'Downloaded' section of Manage Applications:
    aCar
    Adobe Flash Player 10.1
    Adobe Reader
    Airport Mania
    AirSync
    Alarm Clock Plus
    Amazon
    Androidify
    Angry Birds
    Angry Birds Seasons
    AppBrain
    Asian Health
    Barcode Scanner
    Books
    Boot Logo Changer
    Brainwave Tuner
    CalWidget
    Camera360 Ultimate
    Camera 3D
    Car Dock Settings
    Chrome to Phone
    CopyCat
    Cover Art Downloader
    Dev Tools
    Dialer One
    doubleTwist
    Drift Mania
    drocap2
    DroidForums
    Dropbox
    Earth
    eBay
    Edwin
    eSpeak TTS
    EveryTrail
    Fireflies
    Game Dev Story
    GasBuddy
    Goby
    Goggles
    Google Reader
    Google Search
    Google Sky Map
    Google Translate
    GT Racing
    gTabSiMiClock
    Instant Heart Rate
    iTriage
    Jewels
    Kitchen Timer
    Labyrinth
    LauncherPro
    Lookout
    Maps
    Mens Health
    MetaMorph
    Milo
    Modern Combat 2
    Moron Test
    MSNBC.com
    MyTracks
    MyBackup Pro
    NFS Shift
    Nintaii
    Our Groceries
    Pandora
    Parkdroid
    Photoshop Express
    Picasa Tool
    PowerAmp
    Quadrant Standard
    QuickClock Advanced
    QuickPic
    RealCalc
    RealPlayer
    Roadside
    Rocket Bunnies
    ROM Manager
    Root Explorer
    RunKeeper
    SMB
    Setting Profiles
    Shopper
    SiMi Folder
    Skype
    Springpad
    Street View
    Super Tumble
    Survival Manual
    TalkBack
    Target
    Team Black Hat
    TED Mobile
    Terminal Emulator
    Titanium Backup / Pro
    Touch Racing Nitro
    TuneIn Radio
    TweetDeck
    Ulysse Gizmos
    Viingo
    Voice Search
    Weather forcase
    White Noise
    WidgetLocker (Installed but not turned on)
    Widgetsoid
    Wikinvest
    Wolfram Alpha
    WordPress
    World Clock
    X Construct
    X-Plane
    Yelp
    YouTube
    z4root
    Zillow

    **NOTE: Ram is down to 108MB after viewing my list of installed Apps and writing this post.
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    Last edited by mr_brady; 02-18-2011 at 02:49 PM.
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    Don't worry about free ram. Here's the best description I read of how Android manages memory:

    How Android Manages Processes

    In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
    The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BayouFlyFisher View Post
    Don't worry about free ram. Here's the best description I read of how Android manages memory:

    How Android Manages Processes

    In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
    The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck.
    I agree you have a lot of apps that could be trying to update at the same time(news, information and weather). I see you have titanium backup, I would go into settings/applications/running services and see whats running, then I would try freezing those apps you dont absolutely need for a while and see what happens. I know its not an exact answer but you will get to the bottom of this with a little patience.
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    Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense.
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    ohhhhh

    Even though I'm not a droid X user, I've looked at the sysctl thing, and I'm pretty sure thats whats causing your ram lossage. Try setting it back to normal for a little while, and see how things work out.
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    Go to imoseyon.com and download the .zip from there abf apply it.. it will increase your speed and battery life substantially. Should fix your memory problem as well... it sets systcl to the most optimal settings too. let me know if it helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_brady View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by droid fetish View Post
    80 TO 100MB lost in an hour? not normal. list the apps you have installed. Im usually down to 75 or 80 after about 16hrs of use, I reboot each morning to start afresh, What have you tweaked in Liberty? Maybe reflash to set everything back to stock and see what it does.
    I reboot multiple times each day as well. I previously had tried the Liberty Battery Tweak Framework, as well as the Sysctl changes listed on other threads. Since then I have SBF'ed the latest .340 fresh ROM and re-installed Liberty 1.5 with the Revolution Remix Theme. No other theme tweaks, except animation changes and ad blocking.

    Just rebooted, RAM showed 182MB free. The phone has been in standby for the last 10 minutes and it's down to 150MB free. Loaded the Applications Screen to show installed Applications and it's down to 130MB.

    Apps listed in the 'Downloaded' section of Manage Applications:
    aCar
    Adobe Flash Player 10.1
    Adobe Reader
    Airport Mania
    AirSync
    Alarm Clock Plus
    Amazon
    Androidify
    Angry Birds
    Angry Birds Seasons
    AppBrain
    Asian Health
    Barcode Scanner
    Books
    Boot Logo Changer
    Brainwave Tuner
    CalWidget
    Camera360 Ultimate
    Camera 3D
    Car Dock Settings
    Chrome to Phone
    CopyCat
    Cover Art Downloader
    Dev Tools
    Dialer One
    doubleTwist
    Drift Mania
    drocap2
    DroidForums
    Dropbox
    Earth
    eBay
    Edwin
    eSpeak TTS
    EveryTrail
    Fireflies
    Game Dev Story
    GasBuddy
    Goby
    Goggles
    Google Reader
    Google Search
    Google Sky Map
    Google Translate
    GT Racing
    gTabSiMiClock
    Instant Heart Rate
    iTriage
    Jewels
    Kitchen Timer
    Labyrinth
    LauncherPro
    Lookout
    Maps
    Mens Health
    MetaMorph
    Milo
    Modern Combat 2
    Moron Test
    MSNBC.com
    MyTracks
    MyBackup Pro
    NFS Shift
    Nintaii
    Our Groceries
    Pandora
    Parkdroid
    Photoshop Express
    Picasa Tool
    PowerAmp
    Quadrant Standard
    QuickClock Advanced
    QuickPic
    RealCalc
    RealPlayer
    Roadside
    Rocket Bunnies
    ROM Manager
    Root Explorer
    RunKeeper
    SMB
    Setting Profiles
    Shopper
    SiMi Folder
    Skype
    Springpad
    Street View
    Super Tumble
    Survival Manual
    TalkBack
    Target
    Team Black Hat
    TED Mobile
    Terminal Emulator
    Titanium Backup / Pro
    Touch Racing Nitro
    TuneIn Radio
    TweetDeck
    Ulysse Gizmos
    Viingo
    Voice Search
    Weather forcase
    White Noise
    WidgetLocker (Installed but not turned on)
    Widgetsoid
    Wikinvest
    Wolfram Alpha
    WordPress
    World Clock
    X Construct
    X-Plane
    Yelp
    YouTube
    z4root
    Zillow

    **NOTE: Ram is down to 108MB after viewing my list of installed Apps and writing this post.
    what weather widget are you using? It looks awesome
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