Noobs looking to root look here 1st

This is a discussion on Noobs looking to root look here 1st within the Hacking Help forums, part of the Droid Hacking category; Originally Posted by Corinacakes Originally Posted by pilotcharles747 Originally Posted by Apollo What would you guys recommend to Linux users? Haven't searched, just asking.. see ...

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    What would you guys recommend to Linux users? Haven't searched, just asking..

    see my sig and click on the link.
    I really really like that link PilotCharles. Tallica you want to add his sig to the OP then I'll suggest a sticky and have it moved to Hacking Help.
    Agreed, I will update the OP

    Thanks pilotcharles
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    Actually tallica before they root they need to know what is going on and that is the problem. We in the RS knows there is a problem with the structure and the issues with rooting. We are working hard on a solution and look to have it as soon as we can.
    I have the feeling I'm a little responsible for some of the problems, and for that I apologize. My post-root guide suggests installing ROMManager for people who rooted using Easy Root because, let's face it, if they're using Easy Root they don't want to hook their Droids up to a PC, and in rare cases can't. It's a good app, but it's a lot trickier to work than Easy Root.

    The problem isn't ROMManager (though it does have its issues, no offense Koush), it's the fact that Easy Root makes it too easy to root. People are rooting without understanding anything they're doing, what to expect, or how to proceed (which is where my guide comes in). I've almost pulled my hair out trying to get some people to understand what I mean when I say flashing something, or rebooting into recovery. How can anyone really expect to do anything if the simplest jargon and explanations are over their heads? And who gets left holding the bag? Well, once I try the simple stuff, I point them over at the Rescue Squad, so I'm assuming I have a few well-earned lumps coming.

    Perhaps the suggestion should be to use Easy Root only as a last resort?

    Also, as to Linux -- does RSDLite work under Wine? If it does, there's the fix right there.
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    Actually tallica before they root they need to know what is going on and that is the problem. We in the RS knows there is a problem with the structure and the issues with rooting. We are working hard on a solution and look to have it as soon as we can.
    I have the feeling I'm a little responsible for some of the problems, and for that I apologize. My post-root guide suggests installing ROMManager for people who rooted using Easy Root because, let's face it, if they're using Easy Root they don't want to hook their Droids up to a PC, and in rare cases can't. It's a good app, but it's a lot trickier to work than Easy Root.

    The problem isn't ROMManager (though it does have its issues, no offense Koush), it's the fact that Easy Root makes it too easy to root. People are rooting without understanding anything they're doing, what to expect, or how to proceed (which is where my guide comes in). I've almost pulled my hair out trying to get some people to understand what I mean when I say flashing something, or rebooting into recovery. How can anyone really expect to do anything if the simplest jargon and explanations are over their heads? And who gets left holding the bag? Well, once I try the simple stuff, I point them over at the Rescue Squad, so I'm assuming I have a few well-earned lumps coming.

    Perhaps the suggestion should be to use Easy Root only as a last resort?

    Also, as to Linux -- does RSDLite work under Wine? If it does, there's the fix right there.
    You are right that some don't understad. A lot of people think once they are rooted they can just install a custom Rom! Obviously they need a custom recovery 1st.

    That is why I recomend putting the recovery on 1st then just installing a Rom to gain Root.

    Also I beg to differ about Rom Manager. There have been too many people, not just noobs, that have "lost" their recoveries after using Rom Manager, It's a known bug in Froyo. I have nothing against Clockwork, just RM.

    If there was a CW.sbf like the SPR one people could take their pick
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    Actually tallica before they root they need to know what is going on and that is the problem. We in the RS knows there is a problem with the structure and the issues with rooting. We are working hard on a solution and look to have it as soon as we can.
    I have the feeling I'm a little responsible for some of the problems, and for that I apologize. My post-root guide suggests installing ROMManager for people who rooted using Easy Root because, let's face it, if they're using Easy Root they don't want to hook their Droids up to a PC, and in rare cases can't. It's a good app, but it's a lot trickier to work than Easy Root.

    The problem isn't ROMManager (though it does have its issues, no offense Koush), it's the fact that Easy Root makes it too easy to root. People are rooting without understanding anything they're doing, what to expect, or how to proceed (which is where my guide comes in). I've almost pulled my hair out trying to get some people to understand what I mean when I say flashing something, or rebooting into recovery. How can anyone really expect to do anything if the simplest jargon and explanations are over their heads? And who gets left holding the bag? Well, once I try the simple stuff, I point them over at the Rescue Squad, so I'm assuming I have a few well-earned lumps coming.

    Perhaps the suggestion should be to use Easy Root only as a last resort?

    Also, as to Linux -- does RSDLite work under Wine? If it does, there's the fix right there.
    You are right that some don't understad. A lot of people think once they are rooted they can just install a custom Rom! Obviously they need a custom recovery 1st.

    That is why I recomend putting the recovery on 1st then just installing a Rom to gain Root.

    Also I beg to differ about Rom Manager. There have been too many people, not just noobs, that have "lost" their recoveries after using Rom Manager, It's a known bug in Froyo. I have nothing against Clockwork, just RM.

    If there was a CW.sbf like the SPR one people could take their pick
    Well, then ROMManager is a problem.

    I don't use it. Unless CyanogenMod only becomes available via ROMManager I never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pilotcharles747 View Post
    nvrmnd apollo i see u are rooted and running a rom, my apologies.
    No worries. I am rooted, running roms, oc'd, and latest basebands are installed on both of my Droids. I am asking, so that in the event a Linux friendly newcomer joins, I mght be able to point him/her in the right direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by furbearingmammal View Post
    Also, as to Linux -- does RSDLite work under Wine? If it does, there's the fix right there.
    Testing.. If I remember correctly, the first time I tried running RSDLite in Wine, the result was failure. I eventually just used my Windows laptop to root. Others, may not have this option.

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    I ran into a problem while trying this on my Droid X. I got to the bootloader, entered RDM lite, it saw my phone, loaded the file, hit start and it failed. What am I missing or doing wrong?
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    The method outlined in the OP is for the Droid 1. Droid X users have to use a different method, and while progress has been made getting an alternate recovery image to work on the X to do the same thing SPRecovery or ClockworkMOD Recovery does on the Droid, it's nowhere near ready yet.
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    Talking Need to know some specific steps...

    Ok, here is what i have: Motorola Droid 1 with the 2.2 Froyo Update, Baseband Version: C_01.43.01P, Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9-g103d848 android-build@apa26 #1, Build Number: FRG01B. Basically all I've done is download the update.zip file from one of the forums on here, mounted my phone, put the update.zip file in the root of my phone, rebooted the phone with X and the Power button into what i understand as "recovery mode", clicked on apply:update.zip, then when it was done i rebooted my phone, sync'd all my lost data back to my phone.

    Now you know what i currently have, now i'll let you know what i wanna do with this phone. (since everyone's saying how to root the 2.0.1 or 2.1 version of my phone and can't seem to tell me if the process is a little different for the 2.2 version....)
    This is what i'm looking to do with my phone:

    Root
    Overclock it to 1.2mhz(Max) and 350mhz(Min).
    Install a custom rom with some useful features.
    I want to learn how to develop everyday useful applications, and contribute to the community.
    And i wouldn't mind having the Droid X theme.
    I am also interested in this whole "Wifi Tethering" thing i keep seeing everywhere, might be useful.

    I need to know step by step how to do this the right way the first time.
    I don't wanna brick my phone and have to do an insurance claim on it...

    Kinda like: "Ok first you need to have these files and programs on your computer BEFORE DOING ANYTHING, and here are the links to these files"
    Please do not be afraid to talk to me like a kid, i'm a noob and i expect it. lol...
    And i hear all this hype about peteralfonso and this bugless beast v.04, maybe that's something i'm interested in trying out.. Open to suggestions. That's all for now, since i've basically typed an essay that sounded kinda demanding... :\ Not meant to sound that way, its just that nobody has been clean and clear with me about exactly how to do all these things properly and preferably with no cost. Kinda unemployed at the moment.....
    Much thanks to anyone who is patient enough to help with this.
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    See the link in my sig.

    Also, pay heed to the warnings about Easy Root and the current issue with the 2.1 SPRecovery SBF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furbearingmammal View Post
    See the link in my sig.

    Also, pay heed to the warnings about Easy Root and the current issue with the 2.1 SPRecovery SBF.
    Ok, here are some things i need to know first. What is an SBF? What does it mean to "FLASH" or whatever? What is an SDK?
    I'm not familiar with all the lingo everyone uses on here and nobody seems to explain it, everyone's talkin to noobs like they should instantly know what these terms mean. lol.
    I have heard that easy root is a great way to root your phone the "easy" way and i've also heard that it isn't great to use. Personally i'm broke right now and can't afford to pay them what they deserve for the app. So i need other options.
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