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    This is funny. This guy just joined on April 5th and only has 4 posts, all in this thread. Can anyone say TROLL!

    Don't believe a word this guy says.

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    This thread is funny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sovrce View Post
    Yes, we were lied to:

    Motorola Razr Android 4.0 update confirmed for 2012 | News | TechRadar

    I'm not trying to fight, I'm not trying to argue. The preemptive apology did more harm than good, so I'll leave it alone.

    I'd ***LOVE*** to be proven wrong. I'd love nothing more than for the official, signed, certified, kissed, blessed, over-the-air update to come out this month or even next month, so we can take whatever updates come with it and sideload those like we've done for years across the Android platform. But I won't be. We'll/you'll/they'll be waiting 6-8+ weeks. I'm not asking you, I'm telling you.

    It's getting late, I'm (clearly) getting crabby and, again, I wasn't/I'm not trying to offend anyone, as I said. No one's an idiot for learning, trying to help, rooting/modding/etc. I'm sorry. I am (was, actually.. what would I be mad about at this point?) just frustrated with this entire situation.

    Goodnight, fellas.
    You're really using that article as proof to say we were lied to?

    A) Publication date: October 19, 2011. Technology information becomes outdated very quickly as products get delayed or change.

    B) The article says an ICS update will be released in "early 2012." That's a broad time frame. Right now is still considered "early 2012."

    C) The article is written purely off something they said they were told by someone at Motorola during a press conference. It wasn't an official announcement, probably just an off hand answer to a question. If it was an official announcement, there would be a press release to go along with it. So there was no actual announcement, hence the fact that there's no source linked. Again, it's just a rumor.

    D) Finally, and most importantly, it's talking about the ICS for Europe, not the U.S., so even putting aside the first tree points, it has absolutely nothing to do with when we will or will not get our update.

    Again, you, nor anyone else was ever lied to. There was never an official announcement, and your sources don't say what you think they say. You bought into rumors that didn't pan out to be true, as is shown by the so-called "evidence" you keep presenting, and you became frustrated by them. That's not Motorola's fault, Verizon's fault, or Google's fault. That's no one's fault but your own. Sure we all wanted to believe the rumors that we'd officially see ICS this week, but it's not the end of the world that we didn't. If you've spent anytime being involved in the tech world, you'd know that this sort of thing happens all the time. There's no reason to get frustrated by it. It's just the way the rumor mill spins.
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    Is there a way to flash ics without being rooted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmen1818 View Post
    Is there a way to flash ics without being rooted?

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    No.

    That is like asking if you can change the engine in your car without opening the hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnoDrtRider View Post
    The info in that quote is wrong... Verizon never had it on their servers it was a MOTO server that was exploited that the ICS leak came from. My guess is VZW hasn't even tested and approved it yet.
    Another possibility is you need to be on the update that is currently in soak test and coming out in order to update to ICS properly the people that loaded the leak may have issues that they haven't discovered yet. Why do you think everyone who is loading the leak is told they need to be on a certain build before flashing the leak? Because certain information/files/permissions are used to allow the update to work 100% properly.
    I think that's what confuses people. Motorola cranks out new builds quite often. The thing is, only a fractional number of the builds that are compiled ever actually make it to Verizon for testing. Most don't even make it outside of Motorola. Some builds are badly broken, others are to test one specific fix.

    What people fail to realize is everytime the source is compiled, it results in a new build. I firmly believe that the appearance of a build on the "Cheesecake" servers has nothing to do with how far along it is in testing. Just that it made it far enough through Motorola's testing that they are testing OTA functionality. Think of it this way: If I have an OS which I compile with build number 1.0.0.0; and I notice the word "Menu" is misspelled. I recompile to fix just that one little issue. The resulting build is no longer 1.0.0.0; it would need to be incremented (i.e. 1.0.0.1)

    In other words, just because this build in on MOTOROLA'S servers, doesn't necessarily mean that VZW has even seen it, yet. Once VZW gets ahold of it, they need to put it through their multiple stage testing process.

    I believe that the GSM models actually have solid release dates simply because Motorola handles the updates for those phones, rather than the carrier. The LTE devices, on the other hand, have no solid release date because that is 100% up to the carrier, and US carriers do NOT like to give release dates.
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    Man some Razr owner come across aa condescending as some Nexus owner (though i will not say worst.) Haha

    To the op.

    Look secound had info from tech sites can be helpful for setting up a timeline but you need to take everything with a grain of salt. If motorola didnt post a date on they're website you were never lied too.
    we will drive after a couple beers an NOT make a federal case out of it

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    Guess one can say..if you wanna hear bull**** rumors; check out ALL the forums. You forum's need to talk about facts not heresay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneWolfArcher View Post
    No.

    That is like asking if you can change the engine in your car without opening the hood.
    Not really. I've never been rooted and I've gotten every other leak there was

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmen1818 View Post
    Not really. I've never been rooted and I've gotten every other leak there was

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    Really?? How do you flash a rom without root?
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