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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBloatware View Post
    Auto-killing apps wastes battery power and slows your phone if the apps just launch again by themselves as many stock apps do. It's better to let them sit idly in memory and let Android deal with them.
    That's like saying its better to keep the lights on cause it takes more energy to to the light back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullswife98 View Post
    I was informed somewhere in these forums that its ok to use the native task killer that came stock on the phone and its the 3rd party task killers like you see in the android market that chew through your battery life. It actually doesn't eat my battery up much at all honestly.



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    That is true. That's why i was talking about the one that came with the phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddfuji View Post
    That is true. That's why i was talking about the one that came with the phone.

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    I thought so, I've been using the native task killer that's in my stock since day one, along with tweeked smart actions, 3g only and with medium use can go 16 hrs or better. I have no battery life issues and am very pleased with it. IMO I had to constantly swap kernels around on my Og droid1 to even come remotely close to this. I'm happy with my Razrs battery life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ddfuji View Post
    That's like saying its better to keep the lights on cause it takes more energy to to the light back on.

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    Apps in memory are not the same as apps using up processor resources. This is a Linux device, not Windows; the same rules don't apply.

    If an app is sitting in memory, it's not necessarily taking up any resources/battery. If you kill such an app and it starts back up, though, you're definitely using up processor and battery resources. It's best to let sleeping apps lie.

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    Thanks ddfuji. Might you answer another question?
    I want to connect ny xoom via bluetooth my unlimited data Razr. When I had a Dorid X, I had to put the phone in airplane mode. When it was paired and connected, I got a big bluetooth icon. When I tried this with my Razr, it WON'T connect in airplane mode and while it connects to the internet I'm afraid its using the xoom data plan (yes I have one and I thought using the airplane mode was what turned that off). Their is no big bluetooth icon which makes me suspect it's running off the xoom data plan. Any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogman356 View Post
    Thanks ddfuji. Might you answer another question?
    I want to connect ny xoom via bluetooth my unlimited data Razr. When I had a Dorid X, I had to put the phone in airplane mode. When it was paired and connected, I got a big bluetooth icon. When I tried this with my Razr, it WON'T connect in airplane mode and while it connects to the internet I'm afraid its using the xoom data plan (yes I have one and I thought using the airplane mode was what turned that off). Their is no big bluetooth icon which makes me suspect it's running off the xoom data plan. Any thoughts?
    ooooooooooo thats a toughy. i dont feel comfortable answering that cause i dont know all that much about bluetooth. but if the xoom is in airplane mode it shouldn't be using its data. airplane modes suspends many of the device's signal transmitting functions, except Bluetooth, gps, and WIFI. unless the airplane mode is broken then it should be getting the data from the razr. i dont know anything about the Bluetooth icon cause i rarely use bluetooth. maybe check the forums for others doing this or having this similar situation. or try it on a laptop with Bluetooth maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zandar View Post
    Apps in memory are not the same as apps using up processor resources. This is a Linux device, not Windows; the same rules don't apply.

    If an app is sitting in memory, it's not necessarily taking up any resources/battery. If you kill such an app and it starts back up, though, you're definitely using up processor and battery resources. It's best to let sleeping apps lie.

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    that makes sense. but thats only if the application is designed to auto restart correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddfuji View Post
    that makes sense. but thats only if the application is designed to auto restart correct?
    Correct, and many of the stock apps/bloatware apps do restart so if you auto-kill tasks it is very easy to set up something that actually wastes resources.

    As for other tasks that do not restart, there is no reason to auto-kill those as Android will do this by itself when needed. Idle tasks sitting in memory are not using resources so having some auto-killing app running in the background to kill apps is wasting resources. The exception to this would be a poorly designed app that starts a service that uses resources without benefit to the user. For example, an app that phones home with your location every 10 minutes for marketing purposes. But in this case, the best solution is to uninstall the app--not to use an auto-killer.

    Experiment with and without auto-killing tasks. That's the only way to find out what is best for you. I suggest that the ideal solution is not to auto-kill apps, but to uninstall crap apps that you've installed.
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    Thanks ddfuji.....
    I appreciate all of your help. Before your help i could only get about four hours out of my battery. It is up to like six now. I know it will get better with some use of my smart actions. i have not even tried it yet. I have only been using the stock task manager, I don't know alot about the smart actions. I am going to do some research. Thanks again for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkuhn1020 View Post
    Always trying to get more battery. The only smart action i currently have on my razr is when my home wifi or campus wifi is detected, data is disabled.

    What else are people using that has produced beneficial results on the battery? I have been thinking about setting up time frames (ie 1215-3, 315-6, 615-9 etc) and having these timeframes be triggers (along with display off) to shut off the data. essentially allowing my data to be on only 15 min every few hours to sync. have people tried this with success? just unsure how quickly the data will be able to turn back on and sync stuff and if this really makes a difference.

    Thanks for any input!
    Awesome, so how did you create the smart action to disable your data when connected to WiFi? I am new to Droid phones.
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