Droid Razr Maxx HD waiting lounge.

[94lt1]

I think it might be a tablet.. or a phone.. it will be the first in the "new" moto line... possibly for December or November...but who knows..

[coderror]

I did see an extremely impressive video showing it running with one core and awesome results. You're right, at 32nm it should do fine on power. What scares me the most is Android app compatibility and optimization. Nothing is optimized for X86. I want Android apps to run perfectly more than I want Windows apps to run at all.

I honestly cannot speak on whether the architecture will cause that big of an issue with compatibility. hopefully there isn't much, if any, compatibility issues as it's all linux

what are you guys talking about? .. if android (as a whole OS) made compatible with the intel x86 chipset, the android apps will be compatible by default, ... when an app is developed the developer and the app dont care about what architectural vendor of the chipset of the device is, the only thing that matters is the android version and features / apis.

so its Android team's job to make sure their OS is compatible with intel chipsets not the app developers, and this cant be like "half compatible" where some apps work and some dont, its either completely compatible (all the android APIs work with intel CPU as they work on ARM chipsets) or not since now android runs same OS version on tablets, phones and phablets, thats the beauty of no fragmentation. and judging by the announcement of Motorola and Intel, i would say the step of testing compatiblty has been done and successful.

and regarding single core / multi core. if an app is developed to support multi-core, it doesnt mean that it cant handle single core (single core is the base, multi core is an option). so apps that support multi-core should not have any problems what so ever running on single (assuming powerful) core.

[hotice]

You right, at this point motorola has to release that thing with 2 gigs of ram and jb in order to compete. Failure to do that and the razr hd might as well be a mid level phone and the razr m a low mid level phone.

True, it needs Jelly Bean.
Sad but true. The Razr HD could almost be a mid-level phone.

[hotice]

I honestly cannot speak on whether the architecture will cause that big of an issue with compatibility. hopefully there isn't much, if any, compatibility issues as it's all linux

Actually, what will save it if anything is probably Java more than Linux. Linux programs need to be compiled for a specific processor type. Java basically runs the app in a virtual machine isolating you from the physical hardware - getting you around the problem. The problem is there are processor specific optimizations that apps have already for processors out there. I'm not sure how many developers will want to put out new versions of their app to make it run well on the Intel processors. It was a big problem for the Cisco Cius. It may not matter for most apps but probably will for games and media players. I don't know for sure but this is what I would expect.

[hotice]

Anyone else find it disturbing that Sept. 5 is one week away and we know EVERYTHING about the Razr M, a phone that we hadn't even heard of a month ago, yet we still don't know any confirmed specs for the HD, a phone that has been on our radar since spring? I'm beginning to worry that they're NOT announcing it next week..

Maybe Moto wants to pull out "one more thing". Apple will probably sue them for it.

[hotice]

What I find funny is that the HD will be blown out of the water by their announcement on the 18th

It will take a lot to convince me to buy an Intel powered Android device. I guess it's worked ok for some Google TV's but people don't seem to love them or they're just not selling that well.

[hotice]

And with the rate Motorola is going, the Intel device will launch exclusively on T-Mobile or Sprint...if it even gets an official U.S. release.

I don't think Moto has ever released their highest end device on anything other than Verizon. I guess you could call the Atrix an exception but it was sort of a side project and not marketed as much it seems to me. The Bionic and Razr and maybe even X2 seemed to get far more attention. Since the new Atrix HD is out I expect anything else that's high-end to be released on Verizon.

[bsweetness]

I don't think Moto has ever released their highest end device on anything other than Verizon. I guess you could call the Atrix an exception but it was sort of a side project and not marketed as much it seems to me. The Bionic and Razr and maybe even X2 seemed to get far more attention. Since the new Atrix HD is out I expect anything else that's high-end to be released on Verizon.

The Atrix was marketed like crazy with the lapdock. There were commercials with the guy going through security at the airport everywhere. It definitely wasn't a side project. And it wasn't until 8 months or so later than Verizon received a comparable device (the Bionic). So, while you're right that Motorola typically does release their high-end Android phones on Verizon, there is precedent for them releasing them on other carriers. I just don't see them announcing two new Verizon phones on the 5th just to turn around and announce another one on the 18th. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me (but of course, they do things that don't make a whole lot of sense all the time). Because of that, I'm thinking whatever they're announcing on the 18th either isn't a phone or it isn't going to debut on Verizon.

[hotice]

what are you guys talking about? .. if android (as a whole OS) made compatible with the intel x86 chipset, the android apps will be compatible by default, ... when an app is developed the developer and the app dont care about what architectural vendor of the chipset of the device is, the only thing that matters is the android version and features / apis.

I'm pretty sure you're not correct. The os needs to be compiled for the processor type at least, not neccicarily that processor. The apps it runs also need to be compiled for that version of linux and that processor type. That's why back in WinMo day's we would need to download the version of the app for our devices, either arm, mips, or sh3. The app is processor specific. Yeah, winmo wasn't linux but it's the same idea.

Java does isolate the app from the hardware so you don't need to compile java apps for a specific processor though I think a number of games and other media apps do have specific optimizations in them to make them work well on say a Tegra 2, Tegra 3, Adreno, or PowerVR. Again, maybe it doesn't affect as many apps as I think but I know it was a big problem with the Cius since it had an Atom (x86) processor. Yeah, most of those optimizations seem to be for the GPU. I'm not sure if they all are or not but it could make the difference in a game being playable or awesome.

[pc747]

motorola is not the first