Motorola Droid 2.1

[92slammer]

RIM has been releasing mirror images of the same device over and over and over for years. I want to see them fall, in the consumer market, because they need to innovate, to move forward. Their OS is clunky and their devices are old. Time to move forward.

i agree somewhat....im a former RIM user and was diehard till I got the droid.....they need to catch up with the rest of the world

[BuzWeaver]

I'm looking forward to the new update.

[ips]

I think they will be, VZW doesnt release updates if they dont feel like they are up to par/ they have too many bugs.... I think they are really stepping this up after BB 4.7 was released because it was a complete bust. Google and moto seem to have their **** together, evidence being how quick 2.01 was out. RIM has obviously been a different story in recent times.

RIM/Blackberry is, IMO on their last leg. They have been loosing market share to EVERYONE for years and once Android phones catch up I don't see the 'business professional' (or whatever RIM defines as the Target Group) being large enough to sustain them against competition. Many IT and other business professionals I know have all abandoned their Blackberry's for WM, iPhones and a few Droids because of their increasing limited capabilities (when compared to their competition). Most IT departments now support numerous devices and therefore people are not locked into a Blackberry for 'work use' and the results are showing. This was evident by RIMs pathetic attempt to bring the Blackberry's to normal consumers (devices like the Storm and the flip-berry, or whatever it was called). Personally I say look for Pre to be done-for this year (for all practical purposes) and RIM within 2 years. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking, lol.

I think RIM noticed their mistakes and are working on it honestly, If they dont do anything they are definitely done for, they have been used to relying on business for a long time and now after the storm flopped I think they realized they cant. They did buy a webkit company and are supposedly working on widgets...then again they seem to get to the party once everyone else has left (see integrating google gears into storm2)

[natediddy1120]

I predict that RIM will deliver some nice devices within the next 2 years...I came from a storm and always loved BB's...they're durable in my opinion and user friendly to people that don't need all the fancy stuff...it seems like RIM always catches up with the competition sooner or later...

[flavious27]

lame if it goes to at&t the phone looks really nice

The Nexus? Nexus can not connect to at&t's 3g service, it does not have the correct antenna settings.

[flavious27]

It will work on AT&T as well as T-Mobile. It won't work with Verizon. It's mainly the hardware that makes this determination as they didn't make it a "world" phone with a SIM card nor CDMA.

No it won't.

It will work on t-mobile, but it will not connect to either at&t's or rogers' 3g service.

[flavious27]

The 3G frequencies are that of T-Mobile.

So you can use the phone on AT&T, but you won't have 3G.

You will not be able to use the phone on Verizon's network as it isn't CDMA.

Not until the spring when a vzw version will be released.

[mr_blonde56]

So when 2.1 comes around will it fix the crazy copy/paste function that haunts me when I try to copy info from an email?

[Martin030908]

RIM has been releasing mirror images of the same device over and over and over for years. I want to see them fall, in the consumer market, because they need to innovate, to move forward. Their OS is clunky and their devices are old. Time to move forward.

i agree somewhat....im a former RIM user and was diehard till I got the droid.....they need to catch up with the rest of the world

Former diehard BB user here as well... they let the consumer market develop without them. Storm 1 and 2 = FAIL. OS 5.0 = EPIC FAIL

I think they will be, VZW doesnt release updates if they dont feel like they are up to par/ they have too many bugs.... I think they are really stepping this up after BB 4.7 was released because it was a complete bust. Google and moto seem to have their **** together, evidence being how quick 2.01 was out. RIM has obviously been a different story in recent times.

RIM/Blackberry is, IMO on their last leg. They have been loosing market share to EVERYONE for years and once Android phones catch up I don't see the 'business professional' (or whatever RIM defines as the Target Group) being large enough to sustain them against competition. Many IT and other business professionals I know have all abandoned their Blackberry's for WM, iPhones and a few Droids because of their increasing limited capabilities (when compared to their competition). Most IT departments now support numerous devices and therefore people are not locked into a Blackberry for 'work use' and the results are showing. This was evident by RIMs pathetic attempt to bring the Blackberry's to normal consumers (devices like the Storm and the flip-berry, or whatever it was called). Personally I say look for Pre to be done-for this year (for all practical purposes) and RIM within 2 years. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking, lol.

I think RIM noticed their mistakes and are working on it honestly, If they dont do anything they are definitely done for, they have been used to relying on business for a long time and now after the storm flopped I think they realized they cant. They did buy a webkit company and are supposedly working on widgets...then again they seem to get to the party once everyone else has left (see integrating google gears into storm2)

I don't think BB will go anywhere in the business world, not anytime soon at least, but as far as consumer market, they're behind the times and won't catch up. Look at their attempt.... OS 5.0... junk... and Storm... junk.

I predict that RIM will deliver some nice devices within the next 2 years...I came from a storm and always loved BB's...they're durable in my opinion and user friendly to people that don't need all the fancy stuff...it seems like RIM always catches up with the competition sooner or later...

It's later.... RIM would need to...
1. Completely abandon their java based platform. It's old school technology and is limiting.
2. Completely abandon their RIM servers. Many of the people I had pushed BB to are now saying they want to get rid of their BB device because of constant outages. Every piece of data a BB receives/sends HAS to go thru RIM's internal servers. The middle man is not needed for consumers. It has it's place to ensure security in the business world.... but this un-needed re-route will be the death of BB's consumer growth. Outages hurt BB big time.

[CorvetteAustin24]

1. Completely abandon their java based platform. It's old school technology and is limiting.

You do realize all programs on Android are Java based, right?