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    Anyone else notice AT&T's ability to "amplify" the facts?

    Just curious if anyone else has noticed things like this:

    ""We’ve invested $75 billion in our wireless and wired networks over the last four years — more capital invested in the U.S. than any company in any industry. "

    They quote both "Wired" and wireless. Where as all other carriers show seperately how much they spend on there networks for "Wireless" alone.

    And I am curious, I don't remember AT&T ever doing anything in the time frame they give. Could this be a first with there new LTE network?

    Just looking for opinions.
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    I left those cheats when they bought up me from Cingular... went to Sprint (they lie about how much cheaper they are... only $5 more a month now) and couldn't keep a signal outside of the city or interstate...

    Now I am with Verizon and just waiting for the Bionic... best customer service from about any company that I have delt with.

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    I have been with verizon since before they became Verizon EXCELLENT customer service. ATT has horrible tech/service we dumped our Uverse because of that. I told them I would never consider an AT&T phone after their horrid customer service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsdreams View Post
    Just curious if anyone else has noticed things like this:

    ""We’ve invested $75 billion in our wireless and wired networks over the last four years — more capital invested in the U.S. than any company in any industry. "

    They quote both "Wired" and wireless. Where as all other carriers show seperately how much they spend on there networks for "Wireless" alone.

    And I am curious, I don't remember AT&T ever doing anything in the time frame they give. Could this be a first with there new LTE network?

    Just looking for opinions.
    Anyone remember the Xmas commercial where AT&T's iPhone landed on the island of misfit toys because of AT&T's poor wireless coverage? (I thot I'd never stop laughing at that one.) It really hurt AT&T's feelings and they rushed to get their coverage commercials on TV. As I was buying my droid I asked the Verizon rep about the network wars and who really won. Of course she'd say Verizon, but she also said to make their network more extensive AT&T included their wired along with their wireless service.

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    How about...

    "AT&T: getting faster with 4G"

    What a crock of shiz that is. Cleary they are avoiding any wording that implies that they currently have 4G. And even despite the fact that no current carrier's 4G network technically meets the definition of "4G", AT&T literally did NOTHING but slap a 4G sticker on their 3G technology. They literally changed nothing. My buddy and i compaired speeds a few weeks ago. His Atrix in AT&T 4G vs. my D2 on VZW 3G...i smoked his atrix. My DL was 4-5 times faster, and my UL was 10 times faster. AT&T's 3G is even supposed to be faster than VZWs, but clearly thats not the case.

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    What I really hate are their commercials stating they have "the nation's fastest mobile broadband network".
    Has anybody else noticed that statement is complete and utter bull? It would be arguable if they referred only to 3G, but they don't. One could reasonably interpret their statements as asserting their network is faster than LTE. I think there may even be grounds for a false advertising claim there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ry View Post
    How about...

    "AT&T: getting faster with 4G"

    What a crock of shiz that is. Cleary they are avoiding any wording that implies that they currently have 4G. And even despite the fact that no current carrier's 4G network technically meets the definition of "4G", AT&T literally did NOTHING but slap a 4G sticker on their 3G technology. They literally changed nothing. My buddy and i compaired speeds a few weeks ago. His Atrix in AT&T 4G vs. my D2 on VZW 3G...i smoked his atrix. My DL was 4-5 times faster, and my UL was 10 times faster. AT&T's 3G is even supposed to be faster than VZWs, but clearly thats not the case.

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    Your DL was 4-5 times faster with Verizon 3g? I find that hard to believe. When I had iPhone 3gs I would regularly get DLs in the 2-3mbp/s on Verizon 3g I get 1-1.4mbp/s....

    And by the way, Verizon LTE DOES in fact meet the definition of 4g as the International body that decides such things has stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ry View Post
    How about...

    "AT&T: getting faster with 4G"

    What a crock of shiz that is. Cleary they are avoiding any wording that implies that they currently have 4G. And even despite the fact that no current carrier's 4G network technically meets the definition of "4G", AT&T literally did NOTHING but slap a 4G sticker on their 3G technology. They literally changed nothing. My buddy and i compaired speeds a few weeks ago. His Atrix in AT&T 4G vs. my D2 on VZW 3G...i smoked his atrix. My DL was 4-5 times faster, and my UL was 10 times faster. AT&T's 3G is even supposed to be faster than VZWs, but clearly thats not the case.

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    Your DL was 4-5 times faster with Verizon 3g? I find that hard to believe. When I had iPhone 3gs I would regularly get DLs in the 2-3mbp/s on Verizon 3g I get 1-1.4mbp/s....

    And by the way, Verizon LTE DOES in fact meet the definition of 4g as the International body that decides such things has stated.
    Yup that much faster. But you also need to consider the loadng on their network at that point...it could have been high. We only tested one time, so i cant really state that the speed is always that slow.

    If you look up the definition of 4G, there are some outlandish speed requirements that no carrier is anywhere close to meeting. This may have changed though since i last looked. I know the whole thing has been a bit rocky since the inception of 4G, so the definition may have been revised.

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    Obviously before the "4G" was turned on for the Atrix. Even then, as pointed out, AT&T is generally faster. It was widely reported that VZW network for the IPhones was about 30% slower (call it 1.2mbps vs. 1.8).

    UNC is lucky, I average more like 700kbps down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Ry View Post
    How about...

    "AT&T: getting faster with 4G"

    What a crock of shiz that is. Cleary they are avoiding any wording that implies that they currently have 4G. And even despite the fact that no current carrier's 4G network technically meets the definition of "4G", AT&T literally did NOTHING but slap a 4G sticker on their 3G technology. They literally changed nothing. My buddy and i compaired speeds a few weeks ago. His Atrix in AT&T 4G vs. my D2 on VZW 3G...i smoked his atrix. My DL was 4-5 times faster, and my UL was 10 times faster. AT&T's 3G is even supposed to be faster than VZWs, but clearly thats not the case.

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    Your DL was 4-5 times faster with Verizon 3g? I find that hard to believe. When I had iPhone 3gs I would regularly get DLs in the 2-3mbp/s on Verizon 3g I get 1-1.4mbp/s....

    And by the way, Verizon LTE DOES in fact meet the definition of 4g as the International body that decides such things has stated.
    Unfortunately on the 4G Part everyone else is correct. Verizon's current LTE network does not meet the standards. Now, in three years when verizon rolls out LTE+ it will meet the standards.

    To be 4G per the international telecomm group (don't remember the name just reading about this) no carriers current or near future meets the 4G requirement of supporting speeds in excess of 100mbps.

    Now, the huge difference is Verizon is using true 4th Generation technology, which no other US provider is doing yet. Sprints current 4G isn't cellular technology and besides that it is widely reported sprint is going to move to lte.

    Just to add I average 1.5 to 2mbps in a good coverage area.

    As for AT&Ts HSPA+ someone on there own forums stated that they found it thag is basically wasn't rolled out yet. Not only was it not discounted by AT&T others backed him up. So whether HSPA+ is out on AT&T or not is still a question.


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