can a Droid be used as a RFID?

[JoePete]

supposedly the goverment is putting rf id tags in passports, driver licences, store are starting to use them. wouldnt you like to know if there is one around you.

I can tell you the New Passports do have them...Why would I care of they are around?

Maybe YOU wouldn't care, but let's see, I can think of many circumstances in many countries where I would not want to be readily connected as being from a foreign land, especially specific foreign lands. This is really the underlying idiocy of the new passports: To save a few seconds of time at entry, our state department has adopted an approach of announcing to anyone with less than $100 of equipment that you are an American.

[Bob Dammit]

supposedly the goverment is putting rf id tags in passports, driver licences, store are starting to use them. wouldnt you like to know if there is one around you.

I can tell you the New Passports do have them...Why would I care of they are around?

Maybe YOU wouldn't care, but let's see, I can think of many circumstances in many countries where I would not want to be readily connected as being from a foreign land, especially specific foreign lands. This is really the underlying idiocy of the new passports: To save a few seconds of time at entry, our state department has adopted an approach of announcing to anyone with less than $100 of equipment that you are an American.

I carry 6 different RFID cards, and 1 RFID key fob on a daily basis. It would be great to get those bulky cards out of my card holder, I dont ever see it happening, solely from a security standpoint. 2 of my cards are for government clearance, and the other 4 are to get into secure loading areas. The key fob of for the rifle club indoor range I belong to. Dealing with security issues post 9/11, I can see the logistical nightmare of verifying who is who in secure areas. Not to mention, the government cant keep track of their laptops, how are they not going to lose cell phones?
Its a great idea, but I dont think it will work.

[Artimis]

I am pretty sure I read a report on how easy it was to snag peoples personal information off passports equiped with RFID. Identify thefts with RFID readers just need to go through an airport and get within close enough proximity to snag your identity.


In any case, we use RFID tags both at work and in the community that I live in. It would be nice to swipe my phone on those days I forget my work badge at home.

I suppose I could always stuff a spare card under the battery cover though

[RFID TagSource]

I would like to clarify a few points made in earlier posts:

The term RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) is a generic reference to a variety of technical implementations. As one individual mentioned above, you are most likely carrying a few RFID tags on you on a regular basis. Examples include key fobs for your car, EZ-Pass toll tags, credit cards, access cards, etc. Virtually all of these implementations are proprietary...meaning unless you get the tags, readers, and software from one specific company then you will not be able to make head/tails of any data transferring from the tag to the reader.

Their are three primary RFID standards that are being implemented in the scenarios mentioned earlier in this thread; Near Field Communications (NFC), High Frequency (HF), and Ultra High Frequency (UHF). A great deal of mis-information has been published about the capabilities of RFID and the "big brother" privacy issue which I will attempt to clarify here:

NFC (also known as contactless) has been in use for many years for transit passes, parking lot access, etc. NFC chips operate in the HF band (13.56 mhz) using standards based secure protocols. To read tags in the HF band both the reader and the tag must share the same magnetic field which typically limits the read distances to no more than a few inches. Therefore it would be nearly impossible for someone to "sniff" private information from someone without the target getting the sneaking suspicion that someone is getting a little too close to their privates. Even if they CAN read it chances are their is little (if anything) that can be done with this information without higher level secure access to another data source.

UHF tags operate differently (back scatter) which give them a much further read distances (up to 100 ft). This is helpful when using RFID for supply chain applications, asset management, etc. The down side of UHF is that it does not work well near liquid (e.g. the human body). UHF tags also carry little information and are little more than an electronic license plate...all of the important information resides in a secured database.

If you are concerned about how RFID may compromise your privacy/security consider the following.

- Your mobile phone is tracking your every move.

- Anyone that uses facebook, twitter, foursquare, etc. has freely offered up much more personal information than can be stored in an RFID tag.

- Most people have no problem handing their credit card to a high school kid working at a restaurant who has plenty of time to get all the they need (including that 4 digit security code) to buy those new sneakers they wanted.

Combining the Droid platform with NFC/RFID can provide a great deal of value to consumers and industry alike in a manner that is much more secure than current technologies. Privacy concerns are WAY overblown by individuals who do not understand this technology.

I hope you find this information helpful.

[The Placid Storm]

I would like to clarify a few points made in earlier posts:

The term RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) is a generic reference to a variety of technical implementations. As one individual mentioned above, you are most likely carrying a few RFID tags on you on a regular basis. Examples include key fobs for your car, EZ-Pass toll tags, credit cards, access cards, etc. Virtually all of these implementations are proprietary...meaning unless you get the tags, readers, and software from one specific company then you will not be able to make head/tails of any data transferring from the tag to the reader.

Their are three primary RFID standards that are being implemented in the scenarios mentioned earlier in this thread; Near Field Communications (NFC), High Frequency (HF), and Ultra High Frequency (UHF). A great deal of mis-information has been published about the capabilities of RFID and the "big brother" privacy issue which I will attempt to clarify here:

NFC (also known as contactless) has been in use for many years for transit passes, parking lot access, etc. NFC chips operate in the HF band (13.56 mhz) using standards based secure protocols. To read tags in the HF band both the reader and the tag must share the same magnetic field which typically limits the read distances to no more than a few inches. Therefore it would be nearly impossible for someone to "sniff" private information from someone without the target getting the sneaking suspicion that someone is getting a little too close to their privates. Even if they CAN read it chances are their is little (if anything) that can be done with this information without higher level secure access to another data source.

UHF tags operate differently (back scatter) which give them a much further read distances (up to 100 ft). This is helpful when using RFID for supply chain applications, asset management, etc. The down side of UHF is that it does not work well near liquid (e.g. the human body). UHF tags also carry little information and are little more than an electronic license plate...all of the important information resides in a secured database.

If you are concerned about how RFID may compromise your privacy/security consider the following.

- Your mobile phone is tracking your every move.

- Anyone that uses facebook, twitter, foursquare, etc. has freely offered up much more personal information than can be stored in an RFID tag.

- Most people have no problem handing their credit card to a high school kid working at a restaurant who has plenty of time to get all the they need (including that 4 digit security code) to buy those new sneakers they wanted.

Combining the Droid platform with NFC/RFID can provide a great deal of value to consumers and industry alike in a manner that is much more secure than current technologies. Privacy concerns are WAY overblown by individuals who do not understand this technology.

I hope you find this information helpful.

I would like to remind everyone that until recently the tv in their living room used UHF and VHF to receive a signal. Now think about the times that touching the antenna helped the signal. Or going to the lake with a portable tv. I for one believe the Big Brother Theory, why else would they be forcing us to swap over to a digital signal? Did you know that analog receivers are almost impossible to find now. Why do we have to clear the analog air waves other than the reality they may be trying to monitor us. They have that list, they move these people into camps "for their protection". Any mention of the existence of these isolation camps gets you on their list. I'm sure I'm on there, it's only a matter of time before I'm bagged in the middle of the night and carried off to one of these camps. Look up "FEMA Fusion Centers" if you don't want to take my word for it. Are you aware that your government is trying to weaken your ability to fight. Massive social and religious brain washing makes you think you should follow your government without question. I think the passage is Romans 17, I could be wrong. Essentially it says God placed your leaders in power so you should follow them or you'll be punished. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? This is turning into a conspiracy comment, if anyone is interested in what I know let me know.

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[apl3]

The Placid Storm are you serious?

[The Placid Storm]

Of course, why would I make it up? Which part are you referring to?

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[apl3]

Well it seems to me to be a tad far fetched. If the government can pull that off and not find one weapon of mass destruction in Iraq I guess I do not know how that would happen. I guess Jessie Ventura figured it out though on his TV special. I just googled fema fusion center and his name pooped up. I have seen his shows and they are not based on reality.

[The Placid Storm]

The government wants you to think they aren't real. If they aren't real why do they keep getting banned? I'm not really a conspiracy theorist but there are a lot of issues that make me nervous. Whether it's the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was incapable of taking the shot due to his skill level or the fact that the government goes out of its way to tell the public area 51 is an alien crash site. They should be honest with the public and let us know the truth about everything. I understand the public is too weak and scared to fully grasp what's happening but it's better than getting the information from guys like me. If we knew the alien abductions were just a way to study and test people then why not inform us? We can continue this through mail, I think I'm able to receive messages. I may have said too much already, don't assume your alone just because you can't see anyone in the room with you.

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[ivank2139]

I was thinking that it might be possible to have an RFID antenna that plugs into the headset jack like the credit card app tool does. then one could use the device to scan for RFID chips and read the output. It might be useful in settings where one needs to collect environmental data and process it into a submission to the EPA. RFID is going to be more ubiquitous over time and the ability to detect and read the sensors and chips would open up a lot of possibilities.