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    Do I need to remove Forever root to get the OTA?

    Will the ota fail or go thru? I've been searching but I can't seem to find a 100% definitive answer? Heck, it's been so long since I forever rooted I can't remember how I even did it now lol. That's what old age and too much Pink Floyd will do ya kiddies hehe
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    Hodor,

    I found one case where one gent said his did work with forever applied. It will probably be a little time before anyone can say with 100%. The file you are talking about is the mount_ext.sh file. If you did not save a .bak file of this when it was edited, you would have to edit the file, AND leave the cursor in the exact correct position with the right number of blank lines for the md5 to match. So a bit of a crapshoot, if the OTA asserts on this file.

    Craig
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    Thanks Craig!
    I decided to try the update without un-rooting and I can say conclusively that it did NOT work. I found the file (I did have it backed up) and restored it, and tried again, and that did not work either. Then I tried using the zip file from the flash card (with Superuser on temp unroot) and that failed too. At that point I got tired of messing around and didn't want to wait for the ota again, so I just used the House of Bionic and rooted with it too, so now all is good with the world again!

    Kudos to Samurai, he's the man!
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    I'm having the same problem and I am also 4ever rooted. I was told that it was the safestrap that has everything screwed up and that I needed to fxz back to .905, even though I'm still stock .905, to fix what safestrap screwed up. Is this true, or do we know that it's definitely 4ever root that is messing things up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suuperflie View Post
    I'm having the same problem and I am also 4ever rooted. I was told that it was the safestrap that has everything screwed up and that I needed to fxz back to .905, even though I'm still stock .905, to fix what safestrap screwed up. Is this true, or do we know that it's definitely 4ever root that is messing things up?

    I had to undo 4ever root to get the install to work. Otherwise it kept failing. Once I restored the backup file, everything was good. If you didn't save a backup just delete the last three lines (below) in mount_ext3.sh located in the /system/bin folder.
    chmod 4755 /system/bin/su
    chmod 4755 /system/xbin/su
    chmod 4755 /system/app/Superuser.apk

    You can save Root with the app "Voodo OTA" and restore it after the update. Very easy!!!
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    Hodor,

    I was afraid that this would end up being hit or miss for folks. I do not know exactly how the update checks for changes, but I think a lot of us were in the same boat with forever root with perhaps small changes. In my case I used the HOB to try and save data, but I found that ICS borked my 64 gig card, and while the HOB method took, my media was all messed up. I ended up wiping everything and doing a clean install with HOB. I tend to think that with a major update like this, it is best for folks to wipe everything. It is a drag to have to set everything up again, but it sure beats trying to run down little glitches that might arise by not wiping.

    Craig
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    What do you mean by "ICS borked my 64Gb card"? Never heard of that and I've been around the leaks since day one.
    Last edited by altspeed; 10-24-2012 at 11:16 AM.
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    I just accepted the OTA update tonight and i cant get motofail to work. Ive tried it on mass storage and MTF. Ive got usb debugging enabled.
    Any ideas?
    **EDIT**
    Oops, sorry,just tried RAZRs Edge root and it worked perfectly
    Last edited by yearn; 10-25-2012 at 02:03 AM.
    Later,
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    Quote Originally Posted by altspeed View Post
    What do you mean by "ICS borked my 64Gb card"? Never heard of that and I've been around the leaks since day one.
    Alt,

    I ordered two 64 gig cards off amazon for the about 55 dollar price. I attempted to install them on 905. The first card I immediately reformated from the EXT2 format to Fat32 using a program, and the phone on 905 would no longer see it, nor any of my PC's. I took the second card and installed it directly in the phone, and got the corrupt/reformat menu. I did so and let 905 reformat it. All was good.

    When I did the HOB, I had erased all of the media off the card to avoid the several hour media check. But, the phone sat on the media update portion for almost 3 hours. I had read of significant issues with ICS and the 64 card with some phones, so I decided to just kill the update to ICS. When I pulled the card to try and read it in my PC's, the card was borked. I had to reformat it, and now only have 27 gig available on the card.

    So honestly I am not sure 100% it was ICS, but it was working fine in 905. And I am not compltely sure if the media update portion of the ICS install actually reformats the card or just goes through all of the files, but something did happen to me. There were very few media files on the card, so I was just guessing that after about 3 hours of waiting, I was truely "hung". If you want to get really confused, try reading the reviews of the various 64G card suppliers on Amazon. My next card will probably be full retail from a trusted source. I did learn that the first thing to do when getting a card is confirm exactly how it is natively formatted before making a decision as to proceeding.

    Craig
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    Why would you guys FXZ back to 905 when the 246 has an FXZ?
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