To alleviate your confusion, I'm not talking about the /system/app or data/app in this case. The apks are DEFINITELY in the /system/app folder.
I'm referring to viewing the apps in home > settings > applications > manage applications...
Before removing the bloatware, only the apps which I downloaded from the market were in the first tab of that screen which is the "downloaded" tab. Those apps were in the next tab, "all" which includes preinstalled bloatware apps and downloaded apps.
Now, after reinstalling those apps (which are in the /system/app folder), they show up in the "downloaded" tab. This means the phone is still seeing them differently than it was originally. I think this is because of the permissions still being different than they were when I started. I won't have time to mess with that til tmrw morning, unfortunately.
As my phone is working just fine, I'm fine with hanging out til someone releases a stock backup or an SBF is released. I just like knowing how to fix stuff if I have to!
As for the app with the odex file associated, I believe it still needs to be installed in /system/app where it came from. You think it should go in the /data/app folder?
Roger all of that. No, that vzw setup application and odex file are in /system on my phone, so I would absolutely suggest that it would need to be in system. As to the other things and being in data, I would think that any application that you put on the phone, be it from the market or going through any actual install process is going to wind up in data. This would be true for any third party aps as well, although I could see perhaps some being hardcoded to install to system. But these would not be anything we are discussing here. This situation is exactly the same as the D1 with custom roms, where some apps were left out of roms, and you were directed that if you wnated them, go to the market and install. These would then end up in /data. My concern here would be for any native apps that need to be in system to function correctly.
The sbfish file is now available. Check in the hacks subforum. It appears to have a little confusion surrounding it, as it it is not technically an sbf file, but appears to be the way VZW is going with these system repair files. Still needs RSD Lite, though. I downloaded all the stuff, just in case. Right now I am torn about whether I want to go down the custom path. No question with my D1, but the bionic is so solid right now, it is not pressing me enough to get excited. Right now I am content with root, but I am sure i will have to tip my hand one way or another, once the first OTA is released. Depending upon whether or not the existing root exploit is patched.
Everything you've said makes sense to me!
I'm not so worried about it now as the SBFish file is out. Maybe I should flash that with RSD and reroot before turret first OTA. I want to see how that goes got other people before I try it tho...
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Ever since I had my Droid X in July 2010 when I came over from Windows Mobile, and then the X2 and now Bionic, I have done this. What you are doing is making your own system dump. It's not a "backup" per se.
Originally Posted by alucard9114
You can also do the same basic thing with your apps you download. But they can't be on your SD card, so move them back to your device first (when moved to the SD card, the apps disappear anyways until they fix it). I haven't figured out yet where the apk is stored when it is moved to the SD card. But go to /data/app. And you will find them there. Some apps are in /data/app-private. Like USAA Mobile, MLB At-Bat, and Firehouse Scheduler.
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