myLock in Market! Skip the Lock Screen!

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    Not to get off topic, but is Wave Secure better than Mobile Defense?

    BTW great job on the progress Pet, I'm looking forward to updates
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonKyu View Post
    Not to get off topic, but is Wave Secure better than Mobile Defense?

    BTW great job on the progress Pet, I'm looking forward to updates
    Personally I believe so. I don't think Mobile Defense offers remote wipe option... I could be wrong. It's been a while since I compared the two and made the choice to go with Wave Secure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin030908 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonKyu View Post
    Not to get off topic, but is Wave Secure better than Mobile Defense?

    BTW great job on the progress Pet, I'm looking forward to updates
    Personally I believe so. I don't think Mobile Defense offers remote wipe option... I could be wrong. It's been a while since I compared the two and made the choice to go with Wave Secure.
    Oh cool I'll check out Wave Secure, I installed Mobile Defense and thought it was neat lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonKyu View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonKyu View Post
    Not to get off topic, but is Wave Secure better than Mobile Defense?

    BTW great job on the progress Pet, I'm looking forward to updates
    Personally I believe so. I don't think Mobile Defense offers remote wipe option... I could be wrong. It's been a while since I compared the two and made the choice to go with Wave Secure.
    Oh cool I'll check out Wave Secure, I installed Mobile Defense and thought it was neat lol
    I forget the differences. But both websites gave good information for me to make a choice
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    There are quite a few posts on this forum that compare the two products. From what I've gathered.WaveSecure has more features, but Mobile Defense is smaller and lighter and is more precise in locating the device on a map. Apparently, MD can also be installed with root access so that it can turn on the GPS radio if it is already off. WS apparently can't turn on the GPS if it is off.

    Both sound really interesting, and once I get through my first week of Droid ownership and acclimation, I'll check them both out.
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    Dear loyal users:

    any of you out there that might be putting up with occasional bugs, make sure to go download Log Collector so you can email me a real bug log next time the issue happens. I would really appreciate it.



    RE: Wersnt below:

    That happens because of a behavior handcent is doing. I identified this last week by running log collector. It impacts both the first version and the complete beta preview. Handcent is starting some kind of lengthy thread, perhaps an update check? I'm not sure what-- at the screen off event. This prevents myLock from getting the screen off it relies on to run its functionality. I've sent a comment to the handcent dev stating they have a lengthy thread and am sending them the log I used to determine this.

    Screenmode just works because it is running a system setting change that's undocumented, which ends up stopping the system from ever running the keyguard. This is vulnerable to break at any time with further android updates. The method became obsolete with android 2.0 which allows any app window to do the same thing.

    It sounds like you're going to want advanced mode where only the lockscreen comes up with certain keys (you could set it up so volume are the guarded keys) but it will unlock with other keys (pwr, cam in your preference). You could even have it so screen stays off from volume presses with advanced power save settings I am working on.

    I contacted another dev about their program, Keyguard Disabler, which is an exact duplicate of what screenmode is doing, and it looks like he will have a simple button customization up and running soon to hopefully be a better fit for you. That's your replacement for screenmode that actually is still in development.
    Last edited by petjakob; 03-09-2010 at 01:13 PM.
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    This is weird.

    I like the interface and setup of myLock quite a bit, and despite setting Handcent SMS's popup window the way described in the first post of this thread, I find that I still occasionally get the Droid's Lock Screen randomly, maybe 10% or 20% of the time. I don't see any error message or anything, and the next power-on after getting the Lock Screen things generally work as intended, but still.

    Screen Mode, on the other hand, despite it looking crude, works flawlessly every time. I mean, I didn't change anything else in the system in terms of settings or notifications, but Screen Mode just works. I love how I can use the Camera button to turn it on, dislike how the volume buttons also turn it on (I frequently accidentally hit the volume button when removing the Droid from my belt holster), and I wish there were some configuration settings or even any development of it (it seems to have stalled out), but there's no denying that it just works for me.

    Just a data point. I'd still rather have the flexibility of myLock.

    -Warr
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    Quote Originally Posted by petjakob View Post
    RE: Wersnt below:

    Screenmode just works because it is running a system setting change that's undocumented, which ends up stopping the system from ever running the keyguard. This is vulnerable to break at any time with further android updates. The method became obsolete with android 2.0 which allows any app window to do the same thing.
    ...

    I contacted another dev about their program, Keyguard Disabler, which is an exact duplicate of what screenmode is doing, and it looks like he will have a simple button customization up and running soon to hopefully be a better fit for you. That's your replacement for screenmode that actually is still in development.
    Thanks for the pointer. I assume from what you're saying that Keyguard Disabler is using the same undocumented routines as screenmode?

    -Warr
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    Yep, that's right Warr. But, I have great faith in Mike DG, I've communicated with him a little bit recently and I know his app will become a flexible lockscreen skip solution without having to be a custom or replacement lockscreen. Whereas myLock will continue to be built as a replacement lockscreen solution with integration for toggling on instant unlock via a few different methods. We'll most times be assuming there is some case in which our end-user wants to see the lockscreen or retaining some moderate guarding against pocket unlock.
    Last edited by petjakob; 03-13-2010 at 02:02 AM.
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    I only wanted this app for one reason. To be able to press the power button to put the screen to sleep and do the exact same thing to wake it up without ever having to slide the lock screen.

    Brilliant. Love it as is but i'm one of the easier customers to please because this is the only thing I use it for and I never touch it, it works perfect.
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