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    I found everything u where saying I don't know there where 2 setting an storage thanks 4 everyone help

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    Does this work in the same way as removing the throttle files using baksmali and smali? For roms on my d1 I would use those tools. The only problem I had to watch my temps while tethering but I never got throttled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvsmno View Post
    Does this work in the same way as removing the throttle files using baksmali and smali? For roms on my d1 I would use those tools. The only problem I had to watch my temps while tethering but I never got throttled.

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    No cuz deleting the temp files will only last maybe 5 min before the system replaces them this hack modifies the throttle itself to a value where the throttle speed is higher than the network speed so basically keeping ur data speed the the same even though the throttle has kicked on

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    I have managed to pull 27Gb of data on my grandfathered 4g LTE plan, i was regularly getting 18Mbps down but after about 15Gb of data its been ranging from 7-14Mbps. I have not seen a difference since experimenting with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Unit View Post
    Verizon's throttling has noting to do with software on the phones. If your device is in the top 5% of a congested tower, you will be throttled ON THEIR END!
    Does this apply to the top 5% of all data plan devices, or just to the top 5% of devices on unlimited plans?

    HUGE difference there!

    If I, on my unlimited plan, am lumped in with all the tiered data plans on my tower then, by the simple and obvious fact that all those tiered plans are self-limiting, of course I'm going to be near the top of the list. The 5% rule applied that way will throttle a much larger than 5% number of unlimited plan buyers.

    If applied that way, the 5% number would be grossly misleading, to put it kindly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooks405 View Post
    I have managed to pull 27Gb of data on my grandfathered 4g LTE plan, i was regularly getting 18Mbps down but after about 15Gb of data its been ranging from 7-14Mbps. I have not seen a difference since experimenting with this

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    The hack only prevents throttling if u are not currently being throttled u will not see any changes it worked for me cuz i was being throttled my data usage was about 35 gigs for the month an i was only half way through the month an being throttled to about 500 kbsps after the hack it jumped to about 2 mbsps plus if u are on a 3G network with a -dbm of at least 60-65 (mine always hovers between 56 an 62) dont expect speeds higher the 2 mbsps after the hack
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    Quote Originally Posted by TC_Mits View Post
    Does this apply to the top 5% of all data plan devices, or just to the top 5% of devices on unlimited plans?

    HUGE difference there!

    If I, on my unlimited plan, am lumped in with all the tiered data plans on my tower then, by the simple and obvious fact that all those tiered plans are self-limiting, of course I'm going to be near the top of the list. The 5% rule applied that way will throttle a much larger than 5% number of unlimited plan buyers.

    If applied that way, the 5% number would be grossly misleading, to put it kindly.

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    Well your looking at it wrong. Take any given tower, if that specific tower gets busy, the 5% of users that are/have (not sure what the criteria are) using the most bandwidth will be throttled to ensure that the other 95% still get good speeds. Its pretty rare on 3G at this point (in my market), and I would assume 4G has enuf headroom to avoid the issue there for a while.

    EDIT: Looked up the specifics, looks like they only throttle 3G Unlimited subscribers who fall into the top 5% of all data users. With the raw speed that 4G gives, Ill bet very few 3G users are still getting the throttle.

    Also, quote from Verizon : "The difference between our network optimization practice and throttling is about network intelligence. With throttling, your wireless connection is slowed down for your entire cycle, 100% of the time, no matter where you are. Network Optimization balances the best possible experience on the network and for the customer. Network Optimization Practices is more precise and requires more management than throttling, however it provides the greatest balance for everyone. So, if you’re in the top 5% of data users, your connection is slowed only when you are in a congested cell site."
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    First month I had this phone used over 100gb this month 20gb and I haven't been throttled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramacker View Post
    First month I had this phone used over 100gb this month 20gb and I haven't been throttled.

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    Yeah i have noticed that some people with high usage not getting throttled were as some have lol i guess for now its a lottery

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    Quote Originally Posted by B-Unit View Post
    Well your looking at it wrong. Take any given tower, if that specific tower gets busy, the 5% of users that are/have (not sure what the criteria are) using the most bandwidth will be throttled to ensure that the other 95% still get good speeds. Its pretty rare on 3G at this point (in my market), and I would assume 4G has enuf headroom to avoid the issue there for a while.

    EDIT: Looked up the specifics, looks like they only throttle 3G Unlimited subscribers who fall into the top 5% of all data users. With the raw speed that 4G gives, Ill bet very few 3G users are still getting the throttle.

    Also, quote from Verizon : "The difference between our network optimization practice and throttling is about network intelligence. With throttling, your wireless connection is slowed down for your entire cycle, 100% of the time, no matter where you are. Network Optimization balances the best possible experience on the network and for the customer. Network Optimization Practices is more precise and requires more management than throttling, however it provides the greatest balance for everyone. So, if you’re in the top 5% of data users, your connection is slowed only when you are in a congested cell site."


    It wasn't clear what is done about high usage LTE users, but unless you are saying that unlimited 4G plans are never throttled, you confirmed my point.

    My point was this:
    "With the raw speed that 4G gives, Ill bet very few 3G users are still getting the throttle. "

    I'm paying extra for supposedly "unlimited" 4G LTE data. But in reality, if I try to utilize the superior performance of my vzw phone, I will be deprived of the very features I am paying extra money for well before others who are not paying that higher rate. And others in my position will also be penalized at a rate far higher than 5% for simply using the extra performance they paid vzw to get.

    What would be fair would be to throttle only the top 5% in each category: 3G, 3G unlimited, 4G, 4G unlimited.

    Btw, at this stage of the LTE rollout, it's likely that most towers are "congested" most of the time -- meaning that the "Network Optimization" euphemistic throttling will also be operative most of the time.


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