Locked bootloader AND a non removable battery?

[ThisIsMyName]

Who else is disappointed by this? I was all excited about this phone but these were the last two nails in the coffin. I'm just going to get the Samsung Stratosphere. I don't even care that it's slower than my Droid 3, I'm done with Motorola and I have to have a decent phone with a QWERTY keyboard.

[Quicksilver7714]

It's a known fact that the Droid 4 would have a nonremovable battery. Also it shouldn't come as a surprise that the bootloader is locked. The OG Droid and the Xoom are the only exceptions here in the US.

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[destin246]

Wine some more it isn't that bad all motos phones have roms with locked bootloaders.

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[tdpolo26]

yeah really....why do people start these threads it is in every thread thankyou for your input we all know that it is locked and that there is a nonremovable batter. Iphone has one and i dont here them crying all the time (i have several friends with them)... besides it is not completely non removable just annoying to change, and you can buy external cells that are the size of a deck of cards that can run ur cell phone for a very long time. Besides free tethering and a bit of theming (which you can do in ics) there isnt much purpose in rooting and roms. I am not saying i wont do it, but the gains of the past were much greater being able to overclock and fix some of the huge short commings and flaws of the earlier Android operating system most of these issues have been elimnated though with ics. BTW good luck getting some support for the stratosphere i highly doubt that it has a huge following and surely no custom kernels and the bootloader is also locked. But if it is what you want enjoy

[destin246]

yeah really....why do people start these threads it is in every thread thankyou for your input we all know that it is locked and that there is a nonremovable batter. Iphone has one and i dont here them crying all the time (i have several friends with them)... besides it is not completely non removable just annoying to change, and you can buy external cells that are the size of a deck of cards that can run ur cell phone for a very long time. Besides free tethering and a bit of theming (which you can do in ics) there isnt much purpose in rooting and roms. I am not saying i wont do it, but the gains of the past were much greater being able to overclock and fix some of the huge short commings and flaws of the earlier Android operating system most of these issues have been elimnated though with ics. BTW good luck getting some support for the stratosphere i highly doubt that it has a huge following and surely no custom kernels and the bootloader is also locked. But if it is what you want enjoy

Took the words out of my mouth.

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[ThisIsMyName]

Wow, sure is fanboy in here.

[ThisIsMyName]

It's a known fact that the Droid 4 would have a nonremovable battery. Also it shouldn't come as a surprise that the bootloader is locked. The OG Droid and the Xoom are the only exceptions here in the US.

It is now a known fact that the battery is not removable, you're saying that like it was known from the start. The bootloader is not a surprise, just a disappointment.

[ThisIsMyName]

Wine some more it isn't that bad all motos phones have roms with locked bootloaders.

How is it not bad? Seriously, explain it to me.

[ThisIsMyName]

yeah really....why do people start these threads it is in every thread thankyou for your input we all know that it is locked and that there is a nonremovable batter. Iphone has one and i dont here them crying all the time (i have several friends with them)... besides it is not completely non removable just annoying to change, and you can buy external cells that are the size of a deck of cards that can run ur cell phone for a very long time. Besides free tethering and a bit of theming (which you can do in ics) there isnt much purpose in rooting and roms. I am not saying i wont do it, but the gains of the past were much greater being able to overclock and fix some of the huge short commings and flaws of the earlier Android operating system most of these issues have been elimnated though with ics. BTW good luck getting some support for the stratosphere i highly doubt that it has a huge following and surely no custom kernels and the bootloader is also locked. But if it is what you want enjoy

What? Who said ANYTHING about the iPhone? The Stratosphere does not have a locked bootloader and there are full custom ROMs for it already, check Rootzwiki if you don't believe me. Have you seen ICS on a locked down Motorola phone? Are you OK with having Motorola deciding when your phone can no longer receive full updates (probably shortly after the Droid 5 comes out in 6 months)? If so, why?

So far every response to this post has been ignorant and/or irrational, it reminds me of seeing iPhone fanboy posts.

[TC_Mits]

Wow, sure is fanboy in here.

+1 yes, I share your disappointment.

At least you didn't have to pay a shilling for their thoughts. ;-o

It amazes me that the obvious and grand stupidity of using a more expensive, fragile, and dangerous battery-in-a-plastic-bag for zero-zip-zilch performance or price advantage to the user *except* a skinnier more "RAZR"-like phone AND then calling the added bulk, weight, bother, and expense of an add-on portable charger a "solution" could be lost on these types. Hell, how could anyone not see it?


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