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    Anyone think the D4 keyboard is a step backwards?

    It's "laser cut" "laser cut" "laser cut"...I don't care what they use to cut it, I care about what keys are present and how it works.

    I haven't used it, but from watching the videos my preliminary conclusion is that this is the least functional keyboard ever in the Motorola Droid line. Why?

    - lack of symbols on keyboard, probably necessitating a virtual symbol keyboard. That takes more time, makes you take your fingers off of the keyboard, and a virtual keyboard covers part of the screen thus hiding what you are editing/writing.

    - a CAPS LOCK key. Is that a joke? It's the one key I never use on my PC so why would I want it on my phone? What was wrong with pressing SHIFT twice for caps lock? I can imagine hitting CAPS LOCK by mistake all the time. This key annoys the heck out of me. There are keys that are actually used that should be there. CAPS LOCK? Sheesh!!!

    - @ symbol is no longer on it's own key and now requires SYM + 2. A step backwards.

    - = symbol is on it's own key. How often do I use that? I appreciate the idea of trying to make it like a PC keyboard but can they think a little? I use @ much more than = on my phone so @ should have it's own key instead of =.

    - microphone key is on the TAB key instead of by itself. I think it's cool that with one touch on the D3 I can start dictating. Now I guess you have to press SYM and then TAB to do this. A step backward.

    - no ALT key. Is SYM the new ALT? In the past all of the Droid physical keyboards had both SYM and ALT. I wonder if this will cause any complications. Maybe, maybe not.

    - no magnifying glass / search key. I guess you could still use the capacitive search key so perhaps this is a good idea for removing redundancy but the keyboard is technically less functional now.

    Maybe you think I'm whining but I just wanted to list all of my concerns about this keyboard. It's disappointing just like the non-removable battery. I haven't touch this phone but I know it's not for me. Maybe when Google takes over Motorola they'll pull their heads out of wherever they're stuck right now.
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    I haven't had any hands on experience with this yet either...but I have heard reports that this is the best keyboard yet (altho, that was said about the D3)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalltowngirl13 View Post
    I haven't had any hands on experience with this yet either...but I have heard reports that this is the best keyboard yet (altho, that was said about the D3)...
    guess we just have to wait to find out. I've been missing my physical keyboard since I moved from the d2g to the bionic. While I love the bionic the lack of real keys drives me mad. I think a physical keyboard, whether a step back or not, is still better than none at all.... I just wish the screen was that .3" bigger... >_> cause I'm effing blind
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    Always thought the D3 keyboard felt kinda cheap - the keyboard on my Casio G'Zone Brigade was excellent (solid and slightly bubbled). The D4 from what I can see in the videos looks like a step up from the D3's keyboard. If it really does feel good I will buy it since the D4 will be getting ICS in the near future, it will be a global phone, is somewhat splash proof and 4G LTE. The non-removable battery kinda sucks, they'll probably come out with a D4 Maxx a month after the initial D4 release.
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    Personally i wouldn't bother with the DROID4 I'd go with the Nexus or just wait for a quad core in the summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftedplane View Post
    guess we just have to wait to find out. I've been missing my physical keyboard since I moved from the d2g to the bionic. While I love the bionic the lack of real keys drives me mad. I think a physical keyboard, whether a step back or not, is still better than none at all.... I just wish the screen was that .3" bigger... >_> cause I'm effing blind
    I think that is the thing with these phones...the keyboard is a personal preference and if you like it, you like and if you don't, you can go without it...I had the D1 and never used the keyboard (same with the d2g and d3)...I love the virtual keyboards on the bigger screens but that is just my preference.
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    I think the D4 KB is a step backward, but not for any reasons you elucidate. I just think a physical kb is a step backward. Swype typing is awesome! Seems to take less concentration that hitting all the little keys.
    I know a lot of people love their physical kb so i'll shut up now, I just had to put that in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joemontana View Post
    I think the D4 KB is a step backward, but not for any reasons you elucidate. I just think a physical kb is a step backward. Swype typing is awesome! Seems to take less concentration that hitting all the little keys.
    I know a lot of people love their physical kb so i'll shut up now, I just had to put that in.

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    There are 2 benefits of a physical keyboard as I see it:
    1) you can see the whole screen when typing/editing
    2) makes entering key combos easier/possible. For example, for a quick copy paste or when entering weird key combos in a program like emacs.

    #2 is the big reason I have to have a physical keyboard. I've tried using a virtual keyboard (like Hacker's keyboard) but it just doesn't work very well when ssh-ing and using a program like emacs.

    Probably other reasons too, like:
    3) type without looking
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    Well it looks like a pretty awesome phone, I wasn't all that impressed with my Nexus especially since I actually use a phone as a phone and the call quality was terrible on it plus the cheesy battery cover was a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZClimber View Post
    Well it looks like a pretty awesome phone, I wasn't all that impressed with my Nexus especially since I actually use a phone as a phone and the call quality was terrible on it plus the cheesy battery cover was a joke.
    Quote Originally Posted by joemontana View Post
    I think the D4 KB is a step backward, but not for any reasons you elucidate. I just think a physical kb is a step backward. Swype typing is awesome! Seems to take less concentration that hitting all the little keys.
    I know a lot of people love their physical kb so i'll shut up now, I just had to put that in.

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    If you look at your hands or at the keys when you type, be honest now and (oh, you're a vzw shill? Yes, I know, you're not paid to be honest. But everyone else) own up. Hard keyboards are for people who touch type -- and also for anyone who really likes them. If you type Biblical style, you know, "Seek and ye shall find." then maybe you like them and maybe you don't, but either way, you don't NEED a physical keyboard and you have no idea why anyone else would NEED one either.

    So, please go away. Don't post in this thread. It's not about you.

    Edit: Quote / apostrophe key at the top left?!! NOT like a PC keyboard!


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