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    Quote Originally Posted by guidot View Post
    Safe mode is for flashing ROMs.
    Non-safe is where your 'stock+root' ROM and data is.

    Always flash in safe. Safe meaning 'safe to flash.'

    Sent from my Safestrapped, Rooted, ROM'd XT862
    Thanks for all your dedication on Safestrap.

    Would/should you install all apps you need/want in non-safe mode first and then just flash the safe rom and let the app/data flow through automatically to the new safe rom? Or just keep the stock rom withoutyour apps + root and install the safe rom and install apps in the safe rom?

    Secondly, when the OTA comes through in the non-safe mode, will the new updates such as kernell, radio, what have you be reflected in the safe rom?

    Thirdly, if anything goes bad with the safe rom, would you be able to restore to the non-safe really easily? Then, how would you do that?

    Thanks a lot for your help.

    Thanks.
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    Ok, I created a backup in non safe mode, and is still in non safe mode until i decided to make the jump from SD3 to one of these new roms requiring safestrap

    should i be in safe mod when flashing themes too?
    You need to be in safe mode to flash any ROM or theme associated with that ROM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthskim View Post
    Thanks for all your dedication on Safestrap.

    Would/should you install all apps you need/want in non-safe mode first and then just flash the safe rom and let the app/data flow through automatically to the new safe rom? Or just keep the stock rom withoutyour apps + root and install the safe rom and install apps in the safe rom?

    Secondly, when the OTA comes through in the non-safe mode, will the new updates such as kernell, radio, what have you be reflected in the safe rom?

    Thirdly, if anything goes bad with the safe rom, would you be able to restore to the non-safe really easily? Then, how would you do that?

    Thanks a lot for your help.

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    Ok, lots of data you are downloading here.

    Let me try to address everything.

    I would make a backup in non-safe mode of your phone as it is right now in stock form (+root obviously). That way if anything goes south in either safe or non-safe you are covered.

    If you are in safe mode, you don't "see", or rather, the upgrade servers don't see the non-safe mode. You most likely will not see OTAs if you are on a ROM, as the /system folder won't be correct. If you go back to non-safe mode and accept an OTA (which I DO NOT recommend), you will most likely have to re root and re install safestrap (if your phone can even be re rooted at that point).

    If something goes wrong, ie a bootloop or bad flash, you can reboot, hit menu and change back to non-safe and restore your backup. Should be just a few minutes.

    That is the beauty of Safestrap.


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    In regards to the apps, its personal preference.

    I used to test for a developer, so I'm used to reinstalling everything all the time.

    Obviously without all the apps and their data, the backup would be faster and smaller file size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidot View Post
    Ok, lots of data you are downloading here.

    Let me try to address everything.

    I would make a backup in non-safe mode of your phone as it is right now in stock form (+root obviously). That way if anything goes south in either safe or non-safe you are covered.

    If you are in safe mode, you don't "see", or rather, the upgrade servers don't see the non-safe mode. You most likely will not see OTAs if you are on a ROM, as the /system folder won't be correct. If you go back to non-safe mode and accept an OTA (which I DO NOT recommend), you will most likely have to re root and re install safestrap (if your phone can even be re rooted at that point).

    If something goes wrong, ie a bootloop or bad flash, you can reboot, hit menu and change back to non-safe and restore your backup. Should be just a few minutes.

    That is the beauty of Safestrap.


    Sent from my Safestrapped, Rooted, ROM'd XT862

    Thanks.

    Could you please give me an answer to my first question regarding where I should install apps, non-safe or safe.

    Edit: woops, you already answer. Thanks.
    Last edited by matthskim; 11-15-2011 at 08:33 PM.
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    Just to reiterate; safe and non-safe are 2 different things. No data 'flows' between them in any fashion.

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    Oh, I see.

    I thought that the apps/data would flow through between the two systems based on following remarks on Hashcodes' blog:

    1. Many enhancements to Safestrap Recovery including:
      • Caching of userdata between the safe and non-safe systems -- This does take some time. I know it's not instant like it was before. But many users were experiencing hung starts, etc. And now you don't need to constantly backup/restore between swaps.
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    That is only when moving from non-safe (ie moving userdata to /emmc) and back to non-safe (ie replacing from /emmc to /system and /data).

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    I created a backup in non safe mode of my SD3 and when i toggle to safe mode to flash a new, i go to reboot and it just hangs at a black screen after the safestrap menu goes away

    i have to pull the battery and toggle back to non safe mode for it to boot back up?

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    I'm having trouble flashing a ROM. I've tried multiple placing multiple .zip files on the internal storage, but none of them show up in the "install zip from sdcard" menu on Safestrap. I assume I'm doing something wrong, but can't figure out what it is. Any help would be appreciated.
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