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    yeah..i know right. I mean..4.8 was released 4 days ago. And it already has the toggle on/off screen off media keys using a long press of the camera button. lol This was a feature I requested (im sure others have too)...besides even in 4.7 you can disable this feature using chevy tools.

    4.8 also includes BT initiated voice dialing. I dont know of another ROM that does that.


    Not enough people are concerned with quickboot. We hardly ever power our phones down.


    And all of these topics were covered with 4.8. A little reading wouldve revealed this. lol

    Just to clarify a couple things... BT voice dialing was not added to this ROM, it has been a feature of Froyo since day one. The reference to "BT control" in 4.8 was referring to the fact that in 4.7, the new media key feature actually broke the existing bluetooth music control functionality (A2DP) in some ways, and now that is all fixed in 4.8. This is unrelated to the hands-free BT profile, and unrelated to the BT voice dialing feature.

    how does this explain why I have never had BT voice dialing with any rom, not even stock...unrooted. STock rooted. UD8 etc.

    None of them had this feature that actually worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yakitori View Post
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    yeah..i know right. I mean..4.8 was released 4 days ago. And it already has the toggle on/off screen off media keys using a long press of the camera button. lol This was a feature I requested (im sure others have too)...besides even in 4.7 you can disable this feature using chevy tools.

    4.8 also includes BT initiated voice dialing. I dont know of another ROM that does that.


    Not enough people are concerned with quickboot. We hardly ever power our phones down.


    And all of these topics were covered with 4.8. A little reading wouldve revealed this. lol

    Just to clarify a couple things... BT voice dialing was not added to this ROM, it has been a feature of Froyo since day one. The reference to "BT control" in 4.8 was referring to the fact that in 4.7, the new media key feature actually broke the existing bluetooth music control functionality (A2DP) in some ways, and now that is all fixed in 4.8. This is unrelated to the hands-free BT profile, and unrelated to the BT voice dialing feature.

    how does this explain why I have never had BT voice dialing with any rom, not even stock...unrooted. STock rooted. UD8 etc.

    None of them had this feature that actually worked.
    It has been there. You can find numerous articles (ex. http://www.droid-life.com/2010/05/20...ver-bluetooth/ ) citing BT voice dialing as the "long awaited feature" included in Froyo, because everyone complained about it not being in 2.1 and previous versions.

    The first Froyo ROM I installed was SS 4.4, and BT voice dialing was there and working for me on day one, and ever since. I don't know why it wasn't for you. I use a Jawbone 2 and a Motorola S9. It has always worked on both.
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    Hmm..Idk...the previous versions never worked for any of my cardo scala rider motorcycle helmet headsets. They do now though. They dont work with UD8. I had it previously, and my girl did after I flashed to 4.8, and it doesnt work on hers either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yakitori View Post
    Hmm..Idk...the previous versions never worked for any of my cardo scala rider motorcycle helmet headsets. They do now though. They dont work with UD8. I had it previously, and my girl did after I flashed to 4.8, and it doesnt work on hers either.
    This might sound crazy but give this a shot on a phone where it still isn't working. I rooted a friend's Droid a while back and she really wanted to have BT dialing, but said it wasn't working! I was over there recently and paired my headset to her phone and it worked! We were baffled, but then, she tried hers again and it suddenly worked! So maybe, try pairing a different BT headset to that phone. Sounds like voodoo, but you never know...
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    Tried mine out today and it works, really cool. I tried to call my girlfriend and it just said good bye to me. LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreaker47 View Post
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    Hmm..Idk...the previous versions never worked for any of my cardo scala rider motorcycle helmet headsets. They do now though. They dont work with UD8. I had it previously, and my girl did after I flashed to 4.8, and it doesnt work on hers either.
    This might sound crazy but give this a shot on a phone where it still isn't working. I rooted a friend's Droid a while back and she really wanted to have BT dialing, but said it wasn't working! I was over there recently and paired my headset to her phone and it worked! We were baffled, but then, she tried hers again and it suddenly worked! So maybe, try pairing a different BT headset to that phone. Sounds like voodoo, but you never know...

    I have tried 3 different Cardo Scala rider Q2 systems and NONE of them work with UD8. They didnt work for me on 4.7 either, nor when I was on ud8.

    They didnt work on the stock froyo 2.2 either.

    Not sure you know much about cardo scala rider headsets...but its not a typical bt ear piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yakitori View Post
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    Hmm..Idk...the previous versions never worked for any of my cardo scala rider motorcycle helmet headsets. They do now though. They dont work with UD8. I had it previously, and my girl did after I flashed to 4.8, and it doesnt work on hers either.
    This might sound crazy but give this a shot on a phone where it still isn't working. I rooted a friend's Droid a while back and she really wanted to have BT dialing, but said it wasn't working! I was over there recently and paired my headset to her phone and it worked! We were baffled, but then, she tried hers again and it suddenly worked! So maybe, try pairing a different BT headset to that phone. Sounds like voodoo, but you never know...

    I have tried 3 different Cardo Scala rider Q2 systems and NONE of them work with UD8. They didnt work for me on 4.7 either, nor when I was on ud8.

    They didnt work on the stock froyo 2.2 either.

    Not sure you know much about cardo scala rider headsets...but its not a typical bt ear piece.
    Still though, ALL bluetooth devices should conform to the same standards... in this case, the handsfree profile. That is what is supposed to ensure that any BT device can work with any supporting device. In the case of BT voice dialing, all headsets should have a "multifunction" button that should be able to send the same voice dial command to the phone. The button may need to be tapped or held down depending on the device, but it SHOULD be a universal function of any headset, and Froyo SHOULD be able to recognize any of them, if the devices conform to the proper standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreaker47 View Post
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    This might sound crazy but give this a shot on a phone where it still isn't working. I rooted a friend's Droid a while back and she really wanted to have BT dialing, but said it wasn't working! I was over there recently and paired my headset to her phone and it worked! We were baffled, but then, she tried hers again and it suddenly worked! So maybe, try pairing a different BT headset to that phone. Sounds like voodoo, but you never know...

    I have tried 3 different Cardo Scala rider Q2 systems and NONE of them work with UD8. They didnt work for me on 4.7 either, nor when I was on ud8.

    They didnt work on the stock froyo 2.2 either.

    Not sure you know much about cardo scala rider headsets...but its not a typical bt ear piece.
    Still though, ALL bluetooth devices should conform to the same standards... in this case, the handsfree profile. That is what is supposed to ensure that any BT device can work with any supporting device. In the case of BT voice dialing, all headsets should have a "multifunction" button that should be able to send the same voice dial command to the phone. The button may need to be tapped or held down depending on the device, but it SHOULD be a universal function of any headset, and Froyo SHOULD be able to recognize any of them, if the devices conform to the proper standard.
    I agree...it should. Problem is...it doesnt.

    You are more than welcome to come to my house, put the headset in discoverable mode, pair with the phone, and press a single button to initiate a voice call. Its not complicated...it just doesnt work. I just get an audible beep on my heaset earphones, and there is no spoken prompt...no prompt at all. Speaking into the mic does nothing. The phone itself does not respond to the command button from my headset.

    Motorbike Intercom taking you further

    Ive done it all...it doesnt work with the previous versions. I couldnt tell you why...and I dont really care why...I know it works with 4.8...and thats the only time I have ever been able to use my headset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry_ThaGr81 View Post
    That's not big deal reposting a thread that already exist, I've done it myself. You handled it properly by editing your OP, but hopefully you didn't change any of the original content because our responses where based on that. But adding more info to the OP is cool.
    I like to keep my threads semi useful, lol. I just didn't realize that there was another thread with that exact idea. I'm pretty good about not reposting things usually.

    Anyway, the disabling of music controls toggling is definitely something I'd like to request. I do love the feature though the music controls are great when I need to use them.
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    I have tried 3 different Cardo Scala rider Q2 systems and NONE of them work with UD8. They didnt work for me on 4.7 either, nor when I was on ud8.

    They didnt work on the stock froyo 2.2 either.

    Not sure you know much about cardo scala rider headsets...but its not a typical bt ear piece.
    Still though, ALL bluetooth devices should conform to the same standards... in this case, the handsfree profile. That is what is supposed to ensure that any BT device can work with any supporting device. In the case of BT voice dialing, all headsets should have a "multifunction" button that should be able to send the same voice dial command to the phone. The button may need to be tapped or held down depending on the device, but it SHOULD be a universal function of any headset, and Froyo SHOULD be able to recognize any of them, if the devices conform to the proper standard.
    I agree...it should. Problem is...it doesnt.

    You are more than welcome to come to my house, put the headset in discoverable mode, pair with the phone, and press a single button to initiate a voice call. Its not complicated...it just doesnt work. I just get an audible beep on my heaset earphones, and there is no spoken prompt...no prompt at all. Speaking into the mic does nothing. The phone itself does not respond to the command button from my headset.

    Motorbike Intercom taking you further

    Ive done it all...it doesnt work with the previous versions. I couldnt tell you why...and I dont really care why...I know it works with 4.8...and thats the only time I have ever been able to use my headset.
    Oh I never doubted that was your experience..heh, I was just pointing out originally that the feature has in fact been in Froyo. Maybe they just have some bugs to work out still.

    Well of course, you should see a popup box saying voice dialing is initiating, then hear the "speak now" prompt. The only other possibility I could think of is that maybe somehow the "voice dialer" apk wasn't able to be the default application in the past. I remember the first time I pressed the voice dial button on my headset after installing Froyo, I was prompted to run either "Voice dialer" or "Voice dialer HF". HF is what I had used previously as a substitute. Was able to uninstall it forever once I had voice dialing working.

    Cool set by the way... didn't know those things also supported FRS radio type communication between riders. Sweet.
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