SetCPU Vs Petes V1.1 CPU script

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Originally Posted by codyodyody

ok im a little confused here.....i download v1.1 from the rom manager with the 1ghz kernal. Running amazing. I didnt install set cpu. Everything is running great right now. However i see this talk of "petes script" What is the script? Should I run it? If I should do I do it just using terminal emulator? I'm not a complete noob but this part of roms and rooting is a little foreign. Thanks in advance

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The script runs at boot by default, nothing more for you to do.

CK - can you link to Skull's new articles?

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Originally Posted by cereal killer

So I have been testing this ROM since launch and these are my thoughts.

Keep in mind this is the FIRST time I have ever used one of Pete's ROMS so I have no other versions to compare it to.

First off all the Developers here are fantastic. They all work VERY hard and come out with some amazing ROMS and theme's. I think Pete and ALL the developers deserve a great big thank-you. So Thank you Pete : )

So when I test ROMS I usually stick to what the developer suggests. If they say use a certain kernel (Bekit, P3, Chevy etc etc) I use it. If they say no need for this or that I follow the lead. Why? Because who knows the ROM better than the actual developer? No one : ) They built it. They know it inside and out

So in Pete's case he said "Let the ROM work for you" (no need for task killer's. Set CPU etc)

Now I'm a BIG believer in Set CPU. Have been using it since the beginning. Have custom profiles. Read up on Skull Ones EXCELLENT OC'ing guides (his new one will blow you away) so on and so forth. So Pete says there is no need for it. Let his script do it's thing. Fair enough......I will not downloaded it or use it.

I have to say this ROM is one of the most solid and battery friendly ROM's I have EVER used. There are some great ROMS out there that get some REALLY good battery life but I have not come across one that compares. I'm running the 1GHZ kernel and have yet to have a problem with heat, FC's, reboots..nothing.

I kill nothing and I do NOT use Set CPU as suggested and this thing runs stellar. I've been on phone calls, web, tapatalk, some texts. Unplugged since 7:45 am and I am at 90% battery / 90 F. I even run Live Wallpaper.

My suggestion is to listen to what the developer says and don't think you know more than them on how to get the ROM to run better. What works on one ROM will not work on another. This is a FACT. I've yet to use the same set-up on different ROMS and get similar results. I've sworn Bekits kernals were the only way to go only to find out that P3's worked MUCH better when I was on XYZ ROM only to find out that Chevy's were awesome when I used the ABC ROM.

If you are set in your ways and insist on using certain set-ups across the board you will lose (poor battery, heat, FC's, boot loops etc etc)

Get rid of Set CPU and find the kernel that gives you what you need and leave the ROM alone. It's made a certain way for a reason. Don't tinker with it and expect to get "better" results. It's a hard concept of giving up control but it will serve you better.

There are plenty of other ROMS that allow you total control over every aspect but this one, IN MY OPINION, is not one of them. It's VERY unique that way.

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Originally Posted by cereal killer

So I have been testing this ROM since launch and these are my thoughts.

Keep in mind this is the FIRST time I have ever used one of Pete's ROMS so I have no other versions to compare it to.

First off all the Developers here are fantastic. They all work VERY hard and come out with some amazing ROMS and theme's. I think Pete and ALL the developers deserve a great big thank-you. So Thank you Pete : )

So when I test ROMS I usually stick to what the developer suggests. If they say use a certain kernel (Bekit, P3, Chevy etc etc) I use it. If they say no need for this or that I follow the lead. Why? Because who knows the ROM better than the actual developer? No one : ) They built it. They know it inside and out

So in Pete's case he said "Let the ROM work for you" (no need for task killer's. Set CPU etc)

Now I'm a BIG believer in Set CPU. Have been using it since the beginning. Have custom profiles. Read up on Skull Ones EXCELLENT OC'ing guides (his new one will blow you away) so on and so forth. So Pete says there is no need for it. Let his script do it's thing. Fair enough......I will not downloaded it or use it.

I have to say this ROM is one of the most solid and battery friendly ROM's I have EVER used. There are some great ROMS out there that get some REALLY good battery life but I have not come across one that compares. I'm running the 1GHZ kernel and have yet to have a problem with heat, FC's, reboots..nothing.

I kill nothing and I do NOT use Set CPU as suggested and this thing runs stellar. I've been on phone calls, web, tapatalk, some texts. Unplugged since 7:45 am and I am at 90% battery / 90 F. I even run Live Wallpaper.

My suggestion is to listen to what the developer says and don't think you know more than them on how to get the ROM to run better. What works on one ROM will not work on another. This is a FACT. I've yet to use the same set-up on different ROMS and get similar results. I've sworn Bekits kernals were the only way to go only to find out that P3's worked MUCH better when I was on XYZ ROM only to find out that Chevy's were awesome when I used the ABC ROM.

If you are set in your ways and insist on using certain set-ups across the board you will lose (poor battery, heat, FC's, boot loops etc etc)

Get rid of Set CPU and find the kernel that gives you what you need and leave the ROM alone. It's made a certain way for a reason. Don't tinker with it and expect to get "better" results. It's a hard concept of giving up control but it will serve you better.

There are plenty of other ROMS that allow you total control over every aspect but this one, IN MY OPINION, is not one of them. It's VERY unique that way.

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Awesome write up CK, Pete sure knows his stuff!

I'm also curious, does Pete's script essentially run like SetCPU with ondemand for the given speed? It sounds and looks like it's smarter than that, but I'd love to know more detail about it.

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Originally Posted by jntowers

CK - can you link to Skull's new articles?

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Sure jntowers...I just updated it in my sig "Overclocking 101"

He just posted it.

thanks, been looking forward to this

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Originally Posted by cereal killer

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Originally Posted by jntowers

CK - can you link to Skull's new articles?

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Sure jntowers...I just updated it in my sig "Overclocking 101"

He just posted it.

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Originally Posted by cereal killer

So I have been testing this ROM since launch and these are my thoughts.

Keep in mind this is the FIRST time I have ever used one of Pete's ROMS so I have no other versions to compare it to.

First off all the Developers here are fantastic. They all work VERY hard and come out with some amazing ROMS and theme's. I think Pete and ALL the developers deserve a great big thank-you. So Thank you Pete : )

So when I test ROMS I usually stick to what the developer suggests. If they say use a certain kernel (Bekit, P3, Chevy etc etc) I use it. If they say no need for this or that I follow the lead. Why? Because who knows the ROM better than the actual developer? No one : ) They built it. They know it inside and out

So in Pete's case he said "Let the ROM work for you" (no need for task killer's. Set CPU etc)

Now I'm a BIG believer in Set CPU. Have been using it since the beginning. Have custom profiles. Read up on Skull Ones EXCELLENT OC'ing guides (his new one will blow you away) so on and so forth. So Pete says there is no need for it. Let his script do it's thing. Fair enough......I will not downloaded it or use it.

I have to say this ROM is one of the most solid and battery friendly ROM's I have EVER used. There are some great ROMS out there that get some REALLY good battery life but I have not come across one that compares. I'm running the 1GHZ kernel and have yet to have a problem with heat, FC's, reboots..nothing.

I kill nothing and I do NOT use Set CPU as suggested and this thing runs stellar. I've been on phone calls, web, tapatalk, some texts. Unplugged since 7:45 am and I am at 90% battery / 90 F. I even run Live Wallpaper.

My suggestion is to listen to what the developer says and don't think you know more than them on how to get the ROM to run better. What works on one ROM will not work on another. This is a FACT. I've yet to use the same set-up on different ROMS and get similar results. I've sworn Bekits kernals were the only way to go only to find out that P3's worked MUCH better when I was on XYZ ROM only to find out that Chevy's were awesome when I used the ABC ROM.

If you are set in your ways and insist on using certain set-ups across the board you will lose (poor battery, heat, FC's, boot loops etc etc)

Get rid of Set CPU and find the kernel that gives you what you need and leave the ROM alone. It's made a certain way for a reason. Don't tinker with it and expect to get "better" results. It's a hard concept of giving up control but it will serve you better.

There are plenty of other ROMS that allow you total control over every aspect but this one, IN MY OPINION, is not one of them. It's VERY unique that way.

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I'd like to hear what pete says about this to be honest. In the OP it says eliminates the need for setCPU. If the pete script is not what eliminates the need for setCPU, then what does? I don't see anything anywhere in this ROM that does anything as far as overclocking, except the pete script. so that being said, if it's only the pete script that "eliminates" the need, then it's apparent that it doesn't "eliminate" the need. All the script does is set a max kernel speed and a min kernel speed (and then of course kill some tasks, once..at boot). The need, at least for me, of setCPU is profiles and obviously the pete script nor the ROM provides that capability. Sure, Pete says "I'll send you my droid if yours melts from the heat" but if you can have a cool phone, why wouldn't you want it? As I mentioned, when I ran the ROM with just the script I was getting temps in the 120s - 140s and idling at around 85-90 (yea yeah I know, our chip is rated for this haha), but once I installed setCPU I do not go above 105 and my phone is cool as all hell (as low as 65 degrees). The ROM is the best out there, no doubt, but I don't agree that 4 lines in the pete script are what make it that way.

It's not a question of thinking we know better than the devs about what's going on to make the ROM better, it's clearly examining what's going on and looking at the files, and drawing conclusions from it. Maybe I missed elsewhere in the ROM in some file somewhere that "eliminates" the need for setCPU but the pete script does not. And I think I've examined the ROM pretty well. I don't see anything else that indicates that overclock speed is being used/affected/manipulated other than the pete script. I'd much rather have my phone running at 105 degrees when I'm using pandora and navigation, then 135 no matter what the chip is rated at and that's why I would "need" setCPU. Obviously the phone has its own built in failsafe, but there's no need to purposely push a phone like that, especially when you don't have to.

The phones only been out for 6 months and that is not anywhere near enough time to figure out what kind of affect overclocking does. But if your pushing your phone to 145 degrees every single day, I find it hard to believe that there's not some wear and tear going on there. I guess it's a never ending debate haha, but I really would like pete to define how this ROM "eliminates the need for setCPU". For me, it doesn't. I like my profiles, and I like my phone at 105 degrees haha.

Oh and sorry for the wall of text haha

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Originally Posted by czerdrill

I really would like pete to define how this ROM "eliminates the need for setCPU".

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Before BB V1.0 all users wanting to overclock on any ROM needed to install an app to do so (those that did not know the commands). Now my kernels overclock themselves using the pete script. So having a cpu app is no longer a "must have" it is now just optional. It's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by czerdrill

...The phones only been out for 6 months and that is not anywhere near enough time to figure out what kind of affect overclocking does....

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That's my concern as well... what will we be seeing 6 months from now with someone who's OC'd the heck out of his/her phone?

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Originally Posted by peteralfonso

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Originally Posted by czerdrill

I really would like pete to define how this ROM "eliminates the need for setCPU".

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Before BB V1.0 all users wanting to overclock on any ROM needed to install an app to do so (those that did not know the commands). Now my kernels overclock themselves using the pete script. So having a cpu app is no longer a "must have" it is now just optional. It's as simple as that.

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Pete - is your script the equivalent (or close) to SetCPU's ondemand, with whichever speed the kernel sets?