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  1. Master Droid
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    Give body bags the noble prize he just said what we were all thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVash View Post
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    Droid R2D2, its not even on EBay. Thats the one I really wanted. They have them on there but if you look youll see they require contracts. For how long they dont say. Either that or they have a bad ESN, are used, or are too much money. Im waiting for the used ones to skyrocket. Originally when I posted this thread all they had were Bad ESNs but I looked again to post this link.
    Yeah don't know about that. I don't know if they even sold that many. They were pretty expensive. There are tons of D2s though

    Wasn't verizon just blowing out the r2d2s for like 99 dollars just a couple weeks ago. You'd have to extend the contract though

    I didn't read the reviews but what was wrong with the d2g? Its not that different then the d2 or the r2. The r2 used the same processor too

    Sent from my DROID2
    I just got a d2g as an upgrade to my original D1. The d2g is fast as hell, but has waaaaaaayyyyyyyy less rom support (basically there's like 2 options for roms).

    But with one of these roms installed battery life and performance shoot through the roof. I've never had a phone this fast before.

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    Amen to that. Im waiting for GB to come out so I can compete with the life newly breathed into DX and D2s. The Fenom (froyo) rom is looking promising, scores 2000 on quadrant without stagefright apprently.

    I just...dont get it. I get the feeling that OP will complain about anything without being proactive about it, sans buying or trying to weasel into a new phone. And then what? More complaining lol.

    We all suggested rooting, roming and overclocking, the 3 fixes to almost any OG droid speed problem, and that was shot down. So what? I cant help you Nvash, i already threw the suggestion out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alienware777 View Post
    NVash... you may or may not recognize me, but back in the day (like 1.5 years ago) we use to have a lot of good discussions on these forums. It'd be a shame to see you go to an iphone, but I can understand if you do. Thing is that android lags. No matter what one, it'll lag. Its not optimized for the hardware like the iphone is. Though it is admitingly much better than the D1 as you get faster. If your willing to still be on android though take a look at the Galaxy S2. If that thing doesn't make you excited then idk what will. Only downside to it is no keyboard. And just like you that's a big thing for me as well.

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    I vaguely remember those days. Thanks for the post, I can really appreciate one like this with information. I havent seen the Galaxy S2 yet, Ill take a look.

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    Amen to that. Im waiting for GB to come out so I can compete with the life newly breathed into DX and D2s. The Fenom (froyo) rom is looking promising, scores 2000 on quadrant without stagefright apprently.

    I just...dont get it. I get the feeling that OP will complain about anything without being proactive about it, sans buying or trying to weasel into a new phone. And then what? More complaining lol.

    We all suggested rooting, roming and overclocking, the 3 fixes to almost any OG droid speed problem, and that was shot down. So what? I cant help you Nvash, i already threw the suggestion out there.
    Whats so wrong with complaining? Bottom line, I got a phone. I loved it for the first year. For the past year its been nothing but a pain in my behind. I dont want to root. Is there any other answer? Am I wrong for asking such a thing? The main reason Im even tempted with the iPhone is I dont have to jailbreak it to get it to run the way it should. Im not trying to bring out fanboys here, Im asking for simple unbiased opinions. It shouldnt matter that this is a Droid forum. Surely some people have had iPhones and can state the Pros and Cons just as some could do the same for Droid. And there has to be some other answer besides 'Root'.

    Seriously, thats all thats been thrown my way. Im not trying to be insulting, cold or indifferent here but again, is there no other way? The man at Verizon turned me to Launcher Pro, that sped up my home screen slightly and I appreciate it a great deal. Now the trick is to figure out what new phone I want when I upgrade.

    However, remember how I mentioned a friend earlier? Ive told him of this thread and hed like to root. Where can I point him for information on that?
    Last edited by NVash; 05-03-2011 at 10:15 AM.
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    Amen to that. Im waiting for GB to come out so I can compete with the life newly breathed into DX and D2s. The Fenom (froyo) rom is looking promising, scores 2000 on quadrant without stagefright apprently.

    I just...dont get it. I get the feeling that OP will complain about anything without being proactive about it, sans buying or trying to weasel into a new phone. And then what? More complaining lol.

    We all suggested rooting, roming and overclocking, the 3 fixes to almost any OG droid speed problem, and that was shot down. So what? I cant help you Nvash, i already threw the suggestion out there.
    Whats so wrong with complaining? Bottom line, I got a phone. I loved it for the first year. For the past year its been nothing but a pain in my behind. I dont want to root. Is there any other answer? Am I wrong for asking such a thing? The main reason Im even tempted with the iPhone is I dont have to jailbreak it to get it to run the way it should. Im not trying to bring out fanboys here, Im asking for simple unbiased opinions. It shouldnt matter that this is a Droid forum. Surely some people have had iPhones and can state the Pros and Cons just as some could do the same for Droid. And there has to be some other answer besides 'Root'.

    Seriously, thats all thats been thrown my way. Im not trying to be insulting, cold or indifferent here but again, is there no other way? The man at Verizon turned me to Launcher Pro, that sped up my home screen slightly and I appreciate it a great deal. Now the trick is to figure out what new phone I want when I upgrade.

    However, remember how I mentioned a friend earlier? Ive told him of this thread and hed like to root. Where can I point him for information on that?
    well when the droid was first released.. it was the best option on verizon by far, and best option for people even not on verizon. We all know that technology advances so fast, so either you keep up and get new phones or deal with the one you have.

    I don't like dealing, so, along with mostly everyone in this forum, I root and install roms.

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    I can respect that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVash View Post
    I can respect that.
    People just need to not get so frustrated with eachother. We're all here to help eachother. and point your friend to the forum for whatever phone he has. If he has a d2 tell him to PM me, I can help him out.

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    Ok...I`ll bite...and try to give some advice from my perspective...take it for what its worth..

    You really only have 3 options at this point...
    1) Keep your outdated D1, and take the advice that has already been offered, as well as encouraged, and root/ROM it to bring it back to life and extend that life to get you through until you can upgrade more affoably.

    2) Bite the bullet and spend some coin on a comparable phone that meets the requirements you have...hardware keyboard, fast processor and as much RAM as you can get so that the OS is smooth and has low/No lag. To this end, your options are fairly limited...either a D2, D2G or the illustrious R2D2 D2...or maybe a Droid Pro, which I havent seen anyone so far mention as an option...forgive me if it was. I keep seeing where you dont want a non-hw KB, but if you can see yourself using an iPhone, I dont see why you couldnt jump on a Droid X...it has everything else you are looking for, as well as doing what the iPhone basically does, which is double as a portable MP3 player...with the added ability of expanding the SD memory...

    3) Go get the iPhone...without the KB you say you have to have...except in the case of the iPhone because it has a "few" games you like which is enough to make you live without the KB.... <---That alone makes me sure you really dont want anything but the iPhone, and all other options are moot...

    Again, and I am sure there are other DX users here who will back me up...there is nothing the iPhone does(discounting the FFC and video chat, features I really dont see a use for), that the DX cant do...but the iPhone cant say the same thing... The DX is also sporting a larger screen, which translates to it having a larger on-screen keyboard to type on...yet another thing the iPhone doesnt...but, you make the call.

    You couldnt give me 2 iphone 4`s for my 1 DX...its just not a worthy deal IMHO...
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    Ok so I just switched from iPhone 4 to Droid. Here is my two cents. One, there are SOOOOO many features the droid has that, honestly, blows the Iphone out of the water. There is no "voice features" at all. If you want a GPS, that will set you back 50$ and then a monthly subscription. Droid is free. Notifications suck really bad, you are going to miss your notifications bar alot. The camera is pretty nice on the iPhone, but nothing too fancy. The screen is tiny and compared to other phones like the thunderbolt or droid x......just plain sad. I could go on and on but I wont. Point being, if you want nice apps, and an apple logo, get the iPhone.
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    Alright, I'll take another stab.

    Don't... Don't go by reviews on vzw. I'm willing to bet that the majority of them are posted by people that are unhappy and want to vent while people that are happy are enjoying their phones in peace. For guidance, go to a forum for that phone and ask there. There you will get a more realistic cross section of users. Also, put that up against reviews by independent websites like engadget, which will compare the phone in the context of the total mobile market, across providers and platforms. This will give you a much better basis to go on.

    Now about keyboards..

    Physical keyboards are a tiny section of the market, for better or worse. There are no iphone with a physical kb. And very few androids per generation, for all providers. Manufacturers know you give up a lot of features for a physical kb -- form factor, dimensions, cost...and to keep those down they cut other hardware like screen size.

    Input on iphone versus androids without physical kbs... You don't have the option of swype at all. Nor do you have swiftkey which is widely regarded as the best non-swype-style keyboard. From what I heard, it crushes keyboard options for the iphone.

    Also, swype is weird... Really. It takes a shift in the way your brain processes words for entry. That doesn't happen in the three minutes you test it at the store. Commit to it, for at least a couple days. And then you will look back at your reticence and think, "Why did I ever doubt modisch."

    Like I said, I came from an LG Envy, which has a physical keyboard, and I was torn over the D2 or DX. And when I first got the dx and started swyping, I thought, "Dammit, I should have gotten the d2.... Can I switch still?" But then, after a few days, swype clicked and I was faster and more confident on swype. And, as I said, my parents both bought d2's, because of the keyboard, and now wish they had dx's now that they've learned to swype. I kid you not, my mom said to me the other day that she doesn't even use the physical keyboard anymore.

    That feature you are desperate for? Swype has rendered the physical keyboard on a sixty-something grandmother's phone vestigial and unused.

    If you must have one, consider a miniature bluetooth keyboard for those few times you need one. There are numerous options for that, many that are no bigger than a droid kb. Ask around on the forums for recommendations for bt keyboards.

    As for speed...

    You have probably spent more time on hold with verizon trying to get a new phone than it would take to root and flash yours.

    But, if you want a truly fast phone that will last a decent amount of time (obsolescence is a fact of gadgets and it will come for you even if you get an iphone)... the Samsung Galaxy S II is coming out on verizon in may. In benchmarks, it is more than 10x faster than an OG droid. It also has an unlocked bootloader so it can be modded more than a droid 2.... So you can put the best rom available on it and go even faster with less battery use. It is a beast.. I lust for it.

    Again, the platform isn't your problem. The only problems you've expressed can either be fixed within the realm of Android options or won't be fixed with an iphone.

    As said, there are a lot of features you give up with an iphone. An iphone is just an ipod touch that makes calls. Ask yourself, if your ipod touch had 3g, gps, and could make calls, would it completely satisfy you? Bearing in mind that an iphone will have less storage, cost more, and will have less battery life as it will also be drained by use as a phone or gps (and generally be used more).

    Comparison of iOS devices:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_iOS_devices

    The hardware features you lose going from android to iphone should be clear. Just dig at both your devices and see what is missing. No access to the battery. No sd card slot. You need a special adapter for everything since you don't have usb or hdmi.

    Other platform features you lose... As mentioned, notifications. Rotation locking. Widgets, for God's sake. Actual folders. Mobile hotspot. Flash support. HD video.

    An actual file tree... File explorer. Accessing the sd card or internal memory like an actual computer. That would drive me nuts. No app drawer. No homescreens. The iphone didn't get multitasking until the iphone 4. That's just an atrocity.

    To me, an Android is a pocket-sized computer. The iphone is an ipod touch that makes calls. It may have been the first smash hit smartphone, but Android makes it look less smart.

    I really think the iphone doesn't fix your problems. Your problems *can* be fixed with an android phone. The fix that takes the least effort? Get a Droid 2 Global. It will be faster than your current phone, have better battery life, and most likely eliminate your instability (which may be due to a faulty phone). Alternatively, ditch the keyboard requirementand get a dual core phone. Dual cores are faster and have better battery life.

    Also, regarding battery life, you can get higher capacity after market batteries for an android... You can't easily do that for an iphone nor can you swap batteries on the fly.

    Again, a long post but I think I addressed your concerns as well as I can.

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