DroidForums.net is the original Verizon Android Forum! Registered Users do not see these ads. Please Register - It's Free!
Page 1 of 9 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 90

Thread: Droid X Bootloader Locked, Custom ROMs Unlikely

  1. DF News Team
    wuyanks's Avatar
    Member #
    800
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    2,404
    Phone
    Moto DROID !!!
    Premium Member
    #1

    Droid X Bootloader Locked, Custom ROMs Unlikely



    Droid X's have been floating around for quite some time, but only recently have they been getting in the hands of retail customers (thanks to a few early shipments by Verizon). As a result, many questions about the device remained unanswered. One such question was whether or not the bootloader was locked by Motorola. Well, we have some disturbing news for those in the Android development community looking to make the switch to the Droid X. Birdman (a popular Moto Droid and HTC Incredible developer) has had a chance to play with a retail Droid X, and is reporting the the Motorola Droid X's bootloader is indeed encrypted, and may be locked down worse than the Milestone.


    Stephen Bird, a.k.a BirdMan, goes into much further depth on what he has noticed in regards to the locked-down state of retail Droid X's:

    • Units that i have asked for a system dump of do not dump all of the files, for some reason some are skipped. (even when it reports "0 files skipped")
    • Production unit system dumps are PRE-deodexed. Meaning NO .odex files. (EVERY other official android release has had .odex files)
    • Uses EXT3 for unknown purpose
    • Has its own firewall (part of the nand protections?)
    Apparently, also included in the Droid X system image are a few suspect script files, that may be behind this lock-down. He also continues to explain that the Droid X will eventually be rooted, but is less optimistic about bypassing that locked bootloader:

    Q: Can we break the NAND protections that the signed + encrypted bootloader forces?


    A: People will tell you that this has been done before, and indeed - custom bootloaders have been made. Other devices HAVE had this problem before and have found a way around it. Now will the DroidX have a workaround? The milestone is an example of how difficult it will be, sadly however i believe that Moto would not simply put the exact same system that they put on the Milestone on the DroidX. The android-dev team has made some progress (but alas, not enough yet as its STILL locked down check out their progress tho - motorola_milestone [And Developers] )
    What does this mean for the average user? Not much. However, keep in mind that while the bootloader is locked, you will not be able to install a custom recovery or custom ROM on your Droid X, until the bootloader's signature is cracked.

    This was not a complete surprise to those familiar with Motorola's lockdown policies, as in February a Motorola representative explained it was not in their "business practice" to provide unlocked phones, in an article entitled Custom ROMs and Motorola's Android Handsets:

    We understand there is a community of developers interested in going beyond Android application development and experimenting with Android system development and re-flashing phones. For these developers, we highly recommend obtaining either a Google ADP1 developer phone or a Nexus One, both of which are intended for these purposes. At this time, Motorola Android-based handsets are intended for use by consumers and Android application developers, and we have currently chosen not to go into the business of providing fully unlocked developer phones.
    We all know the resiliency and devotion of the Android hacking community, so I wouldn't put anything past them, but these findings truly are grim. Considering it took more than six months to break the encrypted bootloader on the Milestone, and that the X may be locked down even worse, will this force you to reconsider your decision to purchase a Droid X? Let us know. Also, follow mrweeeedbirdman for updates on the matter!

    via Droid-Life
    Source Twitter, Steven Bird's Blog
    Last edited by wuyanks; 07-14-2010 at 09:12 AM.
    GTalk: mabramson1@gmail.com
    twitter: @m_abramson
  2.  
     
     
     
  3. Droid
    DeadlyAP1's Avatar
    Member #
    81471
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    91
    Liked
    2 times
    Phone
    Note 2, GNex
    #2
    Yes, this will and did effect my decision.

    I wanted to get into the android scene after coming from a jailbroken iphone and having a few hacked WM devices in the past. Needless to say, having the ability to do what I want software wise with the phone is big to me.

    I had gotten in on the Droid X pre-order at bestbuy but later canceled it when I heard the bootloader was locked. I instead picked up a Droid and have already enjoyed rooting, loading Chevy's great ROMs and overclocking.

    Im sure the X will be a great phone out of the box, but I like flexibility. And I look forward to be able to have Gingerbread on my phone before it's released while my buddies with their new Droid X's are still excited about getting the OTA update of FroYo!
  4. Premium Member
    mth04's Avatar
    Member #
    133
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    4,082
    Liked
    6 times
    Premium Member
    #3
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyAP1 View Post
    Yes, this will and did effect my decision.

    I wanted to get into the android scene after coming from a jailbroken iphone and having a few hacked WM devices in the past. Needless to say, having the ability to do what I want software wise with the phone is big to me.

    I had gotten in on the Droid X pre-order at bestbuy but later canceled it when I heard the bootloader was locked. I instead picked up a Droid and have already enjoyed rooting, loading Chevy's great ROMs and overclocking.

    Im sure the X will be a great phone out of the box, but I like flexibility. And I look forward to be able to have Gingerbread on my phone before it's released while my buddies with their new Droid X's are still excited about getting the OTA update of FroYo!


    This isnt even clost to accurate. Gingerbread will be out but the Droid X will have Froyo long before it gets here. the other side of that is just maybe the froyo files are already here
    Sometimes , It is what it is !
  5. Administrator
    danDroid's Avatar
    Member #
    2
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    2,280
    Liked
    352 times
    Twitter
    droidforums
    Premium Member
    #4
    For those that you digg, please digg this article for us!

    Droid X Bootloader Locked - Custom ROMs Unlikely
  6. Droid
    DeadlyAP1's Avatar
    Member #
    81471
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    91
    Liked
    2 times
    Phone
    Note 2, GNex
    #5
    So you don't think Droid x will have to wait to get Gingerbread until Moto does what they have to do to it first?

    Google is talking about a 4th quarter release of Gingerbread. DX is supposed to just be getting Froyo at the end of the summer. Doesn't it stand to reason that they will be behind the curve a bit because of whatever moto has to do to the OS before they release it OTA?
  7. Master Droid
    nerdkill's Avatar
    Member #
    19855
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    542
    Liked
    5 times
    Phone
    Galaxy Nexus
    #6
    i feel like this is the future of a lot of android phones coming out.
  8. Senior Droid
    linkboy's Avatar
    Member #
    32458
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    104
    Phone
    Droid
    #7
    I reckon my next phone will be an HTC. This (most likely) means the Droid 2 will be locked as well.
  9. DF News Team
    wuyanks's Avatar
    Member #
    800
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    2,404
    Phone
    Moto DROID !!!
    Premium Member
    #8
    Yes, this certainly does not bold well for future Motorola phones... when we look back on this in the future, the Moto Droid 1 will probably be the exception to the rule.
    GTalk: mabramson1@gmail.com
    twitter: @m_abramson
  10. Administrator
    cereal killer's Avatar
    Member #
    88
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Austin
    Posts
    11,045
    Liked
    1562 times
    Phone
    Nokia Lumia 928
    Premium Member
    #9
    Only speculation at this point in regards to the Droid 2 being locked down as well. Just because the X is locked does not necessarily mean the Droid 2 will be.

    I certainly understand that it doesn't look good but lets not rule it out just yet.

    Sent from my Droid
  11. RS/Moderator
    Abe21599's Avatar
    Member #
    18400
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    6,334
    Liked
    71 times
    Phone
    S3, G2, M8
    Premium Member
    #10
    i havent been following much but why is motorola doing this? do they not know how many customers are turned away bc of the signed bootloader? im not too worried about having a custom ROM but i want wifi tether and the ability to overclock. will the DX still have those?

    and if the bootloader is locked, could I still put froyo on it? i have it on my droid now and would like to be able to put it on the DX when i get it
Page 1 of 9 123 ... LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. custom roms
    By spdivr1122 in forum Android Roms
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-15-2010, 06:10 PM
  2. Droid freaks out with custom roms
    By glynch in forum Android Hacks and Help
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-19-2010, 08:08 AM
  3. Custom ROMs
    By xxlostsurferx16 in forum Android Hacks and Help
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-13-2010, 01:01 PM
  4. Any news on custom ROMs?
    By whatiam in forum Android Hacks and Help
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 12-22-2009, 10:15 PM
  5. Question about custom ROMS...
    By SwordOfWar in forum Android General Discussions
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-14-2009, 08:04 PM

Search tags for this page

android locked bootloader droid x2
,
custom \droid incredible 1 boot loader
,

droid bootloader

,

droid x

,

droid x bootloader rom

,

droid x bootloader unlocked

,

droid x custom

,

droid x custom rom

,

droid x2 locked bootloader

,

droidx custom rom

Click on a term to search our site for related topics.
Find us on Google+