i really hope they dont do this with Droid 2
I'm having a hard time figuring out how custom ROMS hurt Motorola. The only reason I can come up is people bricking/semi bricking their phones while flashing ROMs and sending it in to Verizon/Motorola for repairs. I'm guessing they don't want to deal with the headache.
Moto's official reasoning behind locking down the Milestone was to "ensure a safe and secure platform for all Motorola users etc etc" What a load of PR crap. I remember back in the RAZR days, motorola phones (synergyOS/P2K OS) were famous for being extremely customizable.. Monsterpacks, DRMs, SEEM edits, you know what I'm talking about.. What the hell happened?
What's the point in having an open OS if you're not even allowed to make changes to it? Want a custom kernel? Want your own source built Gingerbread on your X? Sorry no can do, locked bootloader.
I'll wait till motorola comes out with a dual-core OMAP based handset this December and if it's the same locked bootloader BS, I'm just gonna jump back ship to HTC, or get a Google Phone (Nexus 2).
No New Nexus In Sight, Says Schmidt: Nexus One Did Its Job | Android Phone Fans I have my eye on the 2ghz moto phone though. You wont even really need to root with that kind of processor. It would be sick if they go with the x86 architecture too.
To add to my previous post, since I cannot edit:
It's ironic that Moto would give people free reign to do whatever they wanted with a proprietary and in-house built OS (P2K OS), but when it comes to an open source OS like Android, it's all locked down.
I guess I'm in the minority here, but part of the reason I wan't an Android smartphone is that I like customizing what I'm running on MY hardware. I don't like the way stock Android looks, so I theme everything to my liking. I like testing kernels that I compile for fun. I miss running some basic unix commands on my phone, so I add the required binaries/scripts to /system/bin.
That's the spirit of open source - experiment, collaborate and share the knowledge. I only wish companies would stop pissing on the very ideals Android was built on.
I'm guessing that Verizon isn't happy about people activating their phones on other carriers. While the Moto Droid doesn't have the bootloader locked down, getting it to work on another carrier is a lot trickier than most other phones. Talk and text is straight forward enough but 3G and MMS not so much.
I sincerely hope that the next generation of android phones are not locked down. I feel like it severely undermines the open source, free atmosphere which drew me in to begin with. Flashing Rom's has become my favorite part of owning an android phone and so I really refuse to give it up. If this is the way that motorola is going to go, HTC here I come!
Rooted OG Transformer
they need to be successful and they wont be if pull this kind of s***
The mDroid is successful because the community made it so.
I beleive in our android/hacker/modder community and they will take care of us.
If there is a will, there will be a way.
joined AA (android anonymous). Turns out the program feeds my addiction rather than squelch it. I dont mind though
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What's up guys...first post here, but I've been lurking over the past few weeks doing some research on Android devices.
I've been an avid WinMo user/tweaker/hacker since the days of the Audiovox PPC 6700. IIRC that was HTC's first (or at least one of thier first) WinMo pocket PCs. Now my wife and I have a pair of HTC HD2s through T-mobile. Well Tmobs service blows here in the mountains of western NC. For example, I went backpacking with some friends a few weeks ago in the Linville Gorge Wilderness area and lost service 10 minutes off of I-40. After a 3 hour hike down into the gorge we arrive at camp and my friends (both with Verizon) had 4 bars .
The flexibility of WinMo has been great...I've HardSPL'd and SIM unlocked my past 4 HTC phones. Custom ROMs really do add functionality, stability, and speed essentially turning them into completely different devices. I'm optomistic about doing the same with the new DX, but a locked bootloader will be tough to overcome.
To address a few previous posts, it's not Motorola that wants to lock down the devices. Verizon orders them that way. Even though Motorola builds and provides the units Verizon stipulates how accessible they will be. Why does V do this? To make more $$$. Just like how they can charge a ridiculous $20/month for the Wifi hotspot feature. I was doing that for free with my old AT&T Tilt years ago...once had 8 laptops tethered using my 3G service!
Accessing the GPS functionality is another popular area to lock down. Sprint used to charge $10/month for the Telenav crap and had their phones locked to disallow access to the GPS. With all my travels into the backcountry it's important for me to be able to get a GPS fix and navigate without relying on the cell towers. Anyway cell tower triangulation is hardly accurate. With my HD2 I can run TomTom, Igo8, Copilot, and many more with maps stored on my microSD.
Are y'all able to use 3rd party navigation software with the Droids in the same way? I agree these practices totally go against the idea of opensource Android development.
From my understanding signed boot loader does NOT mean the phone can't be rooted which means yes your can probably STEAL! the wifi tethering within a month or 2 of the phone being released. Right off the batt though you can buy it legit for $20/m don't think thats fair? Ask ATT what happens when the network has to much data traffic on it and you will begin to understand why Verizon may want to charge for tethering! Remember ATT has a 2GB Hard Limit for the phone and then charges $20 for tethering and you don't even get an extra 2GB you share it with the phone. Verizon gives you unlimted on the phone and 2GB Tether for $20.
So to answer your other question... if the bootloader is signed then NO you can't have froyo early because that would be a customer unsigned rom. Unless you somehow get a signed testing version from moto which is unlikely. However froyo will probably be out SOONER than LATER!
Finally... I may add that this device has HDMI output and is not capable of displaying any protected video through the HDMI. The phone is capable of running a special blockbuster application that you can purchase and buy movies (and they will not go through the HDMI) so that said this phone has even another reason for moto and vzw to lock it down.
Also custom roms are likely to forfeit many special features of this device another reason why VZW would want the rom locked down. If you forfeit all the special features well then you are not going to pay for them are you?
Moto probably gets $$$ for all the blockbuster sales probably not VZW since it is only avail over wifi not the VZW network... sooo again a great reason to lock the phone down.
Using: Thunderbolt (rooted+OC'd) Incredible (rooted+OC'd) Galaxy Tab (rooted).
Retired: Droid X (rooted+OC'd) gave to GF, Droid 1 (rooted+OC'd 1.25GHz) gave it to my lil brother, G1 (rooted) was stolen from me.