Just another weapon in the tool box with more and more people cutting the cord....you didn't think the cable companies were just going to sit back and watch all that revenue get siphoned off by Netflx, Hulu, etc..?
They go to court to have the power to limit what you use, but reassure us that they won't use that power? Why go to court in the first place?
I smell a giant outhouse around here.
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It's the cable providers who were just handed a gatlin gun. As soon as they were finally challenged by the likes of Netflix with original award winning programing A la carte style, it's all been reversed. Instead here we are, screwed as customers. If I were a Netflix exec I'd double or triple the subscription price starting today in order to incite the kind of outrage that SHOULD be happening right now. They're heading there anyway, if not more than triple. May as well be up front about it and show customers WHY this is happening, not 3 years from now when they'll not understand why they're getting ripped.
The only bright side to any of this is that Google Fiber finally has it's calling. And we need it NOW, ubiquitously. Screw self driving cars, you want my money, give me a reason to destroy Comcast and the like, and I'd gladly pay a premium to destroy their greedy ways.
Content costs what content is going to cost.
This is an argument about distribution costs/profit. If you have less customers, then your per subscriber distribution costs are going to increase. Unless competition or technology reduces those distribution costs, one way or another they are going to have to get their money. It's neither evil nor greedy to raise the distribution costs for companies that piggy-back off your distribution to siphon away your profits.
A far simper solution is simply to raise the prices of home broadband services. Or more likely we'll see data tiers in addition to the already prevalent speed tiers. So long as they control the pipes, they're going to get an return on their investment. One could argue charging Netflix more or throttling/capping that stream actually benefits more consumers than it harms - if you want to cut the cord and use Netflix or Hulu instead, then your costs should go up, not mine.
That's because the big cities have some degree of competition. If you really open things up, then it will get interesting. That's the only thing that will deliver value to consumers - otherwise most of the "solutions" being floated always have winners and losers. And the winners love it, but usually the losers (who far outnumber the winners) get very upset once they realize they got the shaft.
I just SMH because a good number of people are always upset if it isn't basically free. There's no winning with those types.
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I'm not sure I buy your argument kodiak799, although I appreciate your point of view and ability to show "the other side." I think that your analogy of ISPs as a distribution system falls flat. Ultimately, the internet is simply an access point. If I want a faster pipeline to get my data, then the ISPs can charge me more for a faster internet connection than the next guy (and they already do that). They shouldn't have the power to selectively choose what "type" of data I consume across that pipeline, which is what this new ruling would allow.
Furthermore, the other problem with killing Net Neutrality is that it will severely stifle innovation and technological evolution. Yes, it sucks that a new idea has come along (like Netflix) that consumes a great deal of bandwidth across a data pipe at the expense of the Cable TV. However, the cable companies can provide internet access so they are already in that market too. Really, cable TV and internet are two different markets with a little bit of overlap.
There are other industries in which new advancements and new ideas are hurting the ability of companies to make profit. A good current example is Amazon. They have practically killed Best Buy and Barnes & Noble. Does that mean we should penalize Amazon to make it more fair for the other guys?
By killing Net Neutrality (unless it is revived by further appeals), our courts have effectively given the ISPs the ability to penalize Neftlix and Hulu for coming up with a better business model. Yes, Netflix is using your ISP to provide that service, but you still pay the ISP for that service. The cable companies don't have an inherent "right" to keep you as a cable TV customer, and they can still make money off of you buy providing the pipe.
Finally, killing Net Neutrality will ultimately stifle innovation and slow down the evolution of technology related to the internet. In the long run, it's smaller startups that will have a harder time with this new ruling than companies like Netflix. Here's another decent example to illustrate: Net neutrality ruling analysis: Tech startups have most to lose | BGR
Ultimately, this ruling gives too much power to the ISPs. The whole point of an "internet connection" is to connect people to information and each other. Allowing corporations, whose soul motivation is profit, to control what, how, when, where, and why you get access to that data (or other person), is a very bad idea no matter how you slice it. It won't create competition, it will neuter it.
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Now I agree that they shouldn't really be able to block sites you visit, but I do think they have a right to block sites that deal in pirated content - which is probably the main intent behind this. Otherwise they don't have to block or throttle Netflix - plenty of ways for them to recover that lost revenue through various pricing models (a.k.a. profit maximization).
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