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    Quote Originally Posted by dezymond View Post
    Same principle, those were Beats earbuds right? Sure those things were probably prone to breaking, but it's assumed that "hey they're Beats so they must be built well".
    Marginally better sound than my Sony BT earbuds that I paid $100 for 4 years ago. But the Beats fit was terrible, wouldn't stay in my ear unless I wedged them in there in an uncomfortable way, and then if I moved around a little they'd come loose and fall out again.

    Still, to have gotten those Beats earbuds for free must have cost HTC an extra $50 per Rezound that they struggled to sell because of poor marketing, anyway. Why can't HTC make money? Well the Beats deal is a good example, and then they paid Robert Downey Jr. $10M to make commercials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezymond View Post
    Same principle, those were Beats earbuds right? Sure those things were probably prone to breaking, but it's assumed that "hey they're Beats so they must be built well".

    The general consumer sees Beats as a high quality brand. What they don't know without researching is that there are lesser known brands and less expensive brands that have the same sound quality, and many better, than Beats. Beats is sought after because of marketing. Kids see their favorite artists supporting Beats and in turn they want to support it. Ask any audiophile, and I can almost guarantee you they think Beats is way overrated and highly overpriced.

    Had a rezound and those earbuds might as well been skull candies with the beats logo on it. Compared to the actual beats earbuds you could tell they were no where near being beats quality. People were dubbed (including me at first) thinking they got a $100 pair of "quality" ear buds when the only thing they got that was quality (or somewhat) was the beats pouch the earbuds came in. They basically took a bottle of evian (aka naive) and put tap water in it and handed to us and we gladly paid the price for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dezymond View Post
    The average consumer doesn't know this. They see the Beats name and associate it with high quality, again this is the average consumer. Audiophiles and phone savvy consumers know that Beats is just an EQ or that there are other higher quality lesser known brands out there.
    Quote Originally Posted by johnomaz View Post
    Beats Audio is just an EQ. Its been shown that products with Beats built in tend to have a very flat normal EQ and then an EQ with the highs and lows boosted up quite a bit. They intentionally make the sound with beats turned off sound bad so theirs sounds better no matter what. Its just a gimmick and has been put in ROMs already since its just an EQ. No real big loss.
    Quote Originally Posted by MissionImprobable View Post
    It's all about marketing. HTC failed here. I run into so many people who buy into the Beats hype and think they're getting good audio quality. Not to mention knowing that the over-the-ear sets are poorly designed and definitely prone to breaking. Regardless, people buy them and HTC had a marketable gimmick that they failed to capitalize on.

    That said, who needs their horrid EQ? On-board mixing FTW!
    Quote Originally Posted by dezymond View Post
    The general consumer sees Beats as a high quality brand. What they don't know without researching is that there are lesser known brands and less expensive brands that have the same sound quality, and many better, than Beats. Beats is sought after because of marketing. Kids see their favorite artists supporting Beats and in turn they want to support it. Ask any audiophile, and I can almost guarantee you they think Beats is way overrated and highly overpriced.
    Manufacturers of Audiophile equipment (receivers, tuners, amplifiers, pre-amplifiers, crossovers, speakers and all other form of Audiophile equipment), work tirelessly and spend enormous amounts of money and time and testing on R&D to reach a flat frequency response reproduction with as little distortion as attainable. The object is to reproduce the sound without any colorization from the equipment.

    Truth is flat is how the engineers intended it to sound...flat is NORMAL, uncolored, pure. ANY DSP or "Beats" EQ is muddying up the sound. Injecting more bass, more treble is ARTIFICIAL and just totally distorting how it sounded to the ears of the engineer and the band. In other words, if the band and engineer had intended it to sound "Beats" then they'd have made it sound "Beats" and you wouldn't need "Beats" to sound that way. The moment I walk into a room and see the Bass and Treble of a stereo system turned up, I cringe. Overdriven Bass and Treble makes the sound horrible, difficult to listen to for long periods of time, and ruins the beauty and artistic value of the recording. Not every artist intended the Bass to be THUMPING, nor did they intend the Treble to be SHEARING. Subtle nuances of the recording are lost behind the distortion, entire tracks of audio become completely undetectable underneath all that mess.

    As an audiophile I NEVER us ANY DSP or ANY artificial manipulation of the audio signal to produce anything other than the flat frequency response that was intended. My receiver (Denon AVR-3806...not even what I consider Audiophile, but cost $1,800 when I bought it in 2005), comes with a microphone and it produces frequency sweeps from each speaker, then does calculations around the room to determine acoustics and how they change the sound, then adjusts (equalizes) the sound to produce a flat frequency response across the entire spectrum and for the various listening positions around the room. My speakers (Klipsch KLF-20, KLF-C7, RW-35, RSW-15), are very low in distortion and to produce the sound with as little "color" as possible. They are designed to be efficient, so that you can drive them with low wattage, removing the need to turn up the amplifier into the ranges where distortion becomes a problem. 50% of movie theaters in the country use Klipsch for their speaker systems...there are reasons why.
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    comes with age. i used to listen to my music with high bass and treble when i was younger. now i prefer all settings be left in the middle.
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    I bought my Rezound in spite of it having Beats, not because. Gimmick sounds gimmick earbuds, gimmick advertising made me look at everything but the Rezound until I saw something on Phone Scoop about it. They touted it as a bigger Incredible 1 on steroids performance wise and mentioned nothing about the music player. This, in their opinion was a bad thing but fir me it was a good thing. They said it even fit in hand, though a bigger screen than the Inc, like the Inc 1. It was at that point I went to a Verizon store and bought mine because I wanted a phone as good as my Inc and fit my hands like my Inc.
    I've used Beats only to show others that Power Amp works with Beats, both corded and Bluetooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbikermark View Post
    I bought my Rezound in spite of it having Beats, not because. Gimmick sounds gimmick earbuds, gimmick advertising made me look at everything but the Rezound until I saw something on Phone Scoop about it. They touted it as a bigger Incredible 1 on steroids performance wise and mentioned nothing about the music player. This, in their opinion was a bad thing but fir me it was a good thing. They said it even fit in hand, though a bigger screen than the Inc, like the Inc 1. It was at that point I went to a Verizon store and bought mine because I wanted a phone as good as my Inc and fit my hands like my Inc.
    I've used Beats only to show others that Power Amp works with Beats, both corded and Bluetooth.

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    The rezound was so under rated. If it was not for sense being so heavy it would have truly been the better device than the nexus. The rezound had much better radios, speaker quality, and the screen resolution was on par if not better in some cases. When I had my rezound I ran clean rom nexus edition and it performed much better. In the end I went back to the nexus only because I thought they had a true fix for the nexus radios.
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    Only thing I look for in sound quality is the ability to use bass without distortion. The more bass I can use at low to medium volume the better...to me music is not just for listening, but for feeling too.
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    Keep in mind that most earbuds - especially cheap earbuds - produce very little bass. So artificial or not, anything that enhances the base to create a more normal listening experience is ok in my book. IMO, Beats wasn't about overly saturated bass but compensating for the hardware's shortcoming there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiak799 View Post
    Keep in mind that most earbuds - especially cheap earbuds - produce very little bass. So artificial or not, anything that enhances the base to create a more normal listening experience is ok in my book. IMO, Beats wasn't about overly saturated bass but compensating for the hardware's shortcoming there.
    That I can understand. I mean, nobody is trying to get audiophile quality from a phone (yet).

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    i don't know. a lot of sound systems are coming equipped with bluetooth to connect to your phone...
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