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    Samsung Plans to Sue Apple Over iPhone 5 LTE Patent Violations Right Out of the Gate


    According to a late breaking story from last night, Samsung isn't messing around with their counter-attack on Apple. According to insider sources, Samsung will sue Apple for violating its LTE patents with the iPhone 5 just as the phone is launched tomorrow. Here's the quote,

    "It’s true that Samsung Electronics has decided to take immediate legal action against the Cupertino-based Apple. Countries in Europe and even the United States ― Apple’s home-turf ― are our primary targets,’’ said an industry source.
    It's interesting that Samsung is suing Apple for a feature that so far has only been rumored to be in the iPhone 5. Still, even though there has been no official confirmation from Apple, the entire industry is 99% sure that Apple will include the faster networking technology in their newest iPhone. Otherwise, their phone will continue to slip backwards as competitors outpace them in technological advancements.

    Additionally, what makes this an even more important case for both companies is that these LTE patents will most likely not fall under the FRAND licensing. This means that Samsung can potentially ask for a lot more in damages from Apple. Here's another quote with more detail,

    "Apple claimed the existing 3G-related patents are standard essential patents (SEPs) according to our earlier commitment to the FRAND (fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory) terms. But the story is totally different when you talk about LTE patents. These are new and highly-valued,’’ said another source.
    Ultimately, the likely outcome (and probably Samsung's intent) is that Apple will end up being forced to work out a licensing deal that is far more fair and equitable than the lop-sided court win they received in the United States recently.

    Thanks for the tip, WERA689!

    Source: CNET and KoreaTimes
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    Last edited by Narsil; 09-11-2012 at 09:17 AM.
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    I would love to see them get the iphone 5 taken off the shelves... lol
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    For the first time in all these patent wars, my brain just now popped up with Phoenix Wright imagery.

    Godspeed Samsung. Fight the good fight. With Google soon to be at their doorstep, Apple has certainly stirred a heck of a hornet's nest.
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    Hopefully this will teach Apple what goes around comes around. Hopefully they will learn to play nice so that Innovation can flourish.
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    apple.... just die off already please or learn to play nice and actually invent something worth while
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    Easier said than done.

    LTE (telecommunication) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    LTE (an initialism of Long Term Evolution), marketed as 4G LTE, is a standard for wireless communication of high-speed data for mobile phones and data terminals. It is based on the GSM/EDGE and UMTS/HSPA network technologies, increasing the capacity and speed using a different radio interface together with core network improvements. The standard is developed by the 3GPP (3rd Generation Partnership Project) and is specified in its Release 8 document series, with minor enhancements described in Release 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akhenax View Post
    Easier said than done.

    LTE (telecommunication) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    I think Sammy should lick their wounds and move on.
    I don't know the exact patents that are in question, but I would think that the patents would have nothing to do with the LTE standard, in which case it would not be subject to FRAND. That said, it is interesting that Apple's implementation of LTE in the iPhone 5 could be in violation of both Samsung AND HTC's LTE patents. And there has been recent articles that Apple had went out and purchased a fairly large portfolio of LTE patents themselves. So it is pretty interesting that LTE could have generated so many different and distinct patents.
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    Its not the LTE standard that is in question its the components and how the phone handles the LTE that is in question. Hard parts are quite patentable, and at the moment, how software works is also patentable.
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    Hey guys wiki says samsung is wrong, they need to move on. ~_~ really did you post wiki as a source?

    Also LTE is not the only 4g tech, wimax may be failing(and odds are will lose) but the supporters have not given up on it. As such, LTE is the industry leading 4g tech, not standard.
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