My cMetal 11.0 rom for the verizon galaxy nexus
Phone- The GALAXY NEXUS LTE all the
Rom- My own cMetal 11.0 rom (linaro enhanced cm-11.0)
Kernel- ASKP or my modified mpokang v10 superram kernel
previous phone the trusty ol' droid 1
Now I do fear it could turn out to be another Vista as it is a major over haul of the core system. Given Microsoft's track record, it is very easy to make the assumption. However, given how much Microsoft is riding on this being a revolutionary change to there OS and forming a universal eco system like Android and Apple while taking that eco system concept a step further, and bringing that UI and OS core to a desktop environment rather then just tablet and smart phones, Microsoft really needs to hit the nail on the head right here right now with the Win 8 release rather then waiting for Windows 9 or Service Pack 1 to refine an enhance the changes like they did with Vista->7. Actually, I have to point out that Vista has now become a very capable and stable OS since the release of SP9. Alot of the problem with Vista was not actually Microsoft's fault but rather the lack of third party driver compatibility issues which is the fault of the OEMs, not Microsoft. To many people bash Vista to jump on the band wagon rather then using it there self. I used Vista for a few years, and I loved it for what it was at the time. It was very stable and functional in my custom built PC environment. My girlfriends Dell laptop that shipped with vista was a completely different experience when I uninstalled her NIC drivers due to problems, and was unable to get the Dell branded driver for a Dell rebadged Intel NIC to properly install. The Intel drivers were no better but this was Dell and Intel's fault, not Microsoft. Other then the NIC issue, which needed a complete reinstall, it was perfectly fine OS.
I'll be keeping 7 and not upgrading to 8 for a while. I'll let Microsoft get all the bugs out first :P
Last edited by JoshuaTucker; 07-11-2012 at 07:07 PM.
if the upgrade is as cheap as everyone is saying i may upgrade
"The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?"
Sorry, but Vista was a bad OS, and a commercial failure. There was some fault with the hardware makers, but a lot of it is Microsoft's fault.
Anyway, my biggest complaint is that Microsoft is proving that they didn't learn their lesson with the old windows phone platform (you know, the ones with the start menu), the lesson being that just because it is a good idea for a desktop doesn't mean it will work well on a phone...and vice versa.
Edit: also wanted to say that this is not just a knee jerk reaction, i have actually tried the RC. It is a painful experience, and it feels like they are trying to turn my computer into an oversized phone/tablet.
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Last edited by LaurelRaven; 07-11-2012 at 11:31 AM.
I played with one of the more recent preview releases of Windows 8, and it was horrible. I hate the Tile interface. It makes sense on a smartphone or tab, but not on a desktop. You use the devices differently, so having a unified UI is a bad idea. I took it off and went back to Windows 7. I have enjoyed every version of Windows since Win95, and I even liked Vista. I had zero issues with that despite "everyone" complaining about it.
But Windows 8, I won't be using unless they let you disable the Metro theme and go back to a Windows 7 type interface. It just makes it cumbersome and slow to work with.
I have found that most people complained about Vista because they heard other people complaining. It became "general knowledge", even though there was not much basis for it and not many people could list actual valid problems with it. Go watch the videos of the "Mohave Project", where they interviewed general users about Vista, and you heard how they all hated it, listing how bad it was, all sorts of really negative stuff. Then those same users were given access to a PC to sample "Microsoft's new OS"...
Everyone loved it, they said how fast it was, so easy to use, everything just worked well and looked great. Then they were told that those pc's were running bone stock Vista, running general out of the box configurations... The look on people's faces were priceless. They just got done raving about how awesome the OS that half an hour before were trashing as a piece of crap.
It really showed how perception becomes reality for most people. Someone says it sucks, someone repeats it, others hear it and repeat it and suddenly everyone is quoting general knowledge, based solely on the fact that everyone else said it, and hardly any of them could tell you why, or even prove it.
The Mohave Experiment was a real eye opener. hehe
Vista is garbage. It has been the least stable MS interface that I've ever had the displeasure of using. I don't even want to get started on the problems that UAC presented on a PC with multiple users, a system that amazingly caused even more problems once it was turned off. The "simplifications" of Vista are horrid. A lot of the small UI tweaks are horrid. Windows XP and 7 outshine it in so many ways that I could write essays on it. It is easily on par with Millenium Edition.
That said, it looks like MS is keeping up its track record of screwing up every other release or so. Losing the features that longtime Windows users are familiar with is foolish beyond belief. I just don't understand what is going on in their collective heads. As many others have noted, a Smartphone/Tablet is not a PC, nor is the reverse true. While Apple--may their company and lawyers forever reside in hell--might see the use of "simplicity" existing both on their desktop and mobile platforms even they have the sense not to try and make them into one horrid "seamless" experience. If Microsoft weren't raking in licensing fees from other companies left and right from residual designs I would fear for the companies future.
What is best in life? "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."
As far as stability, I am not sure what you mean. Maybe you have it set up wrong, or your PC itself was unstable. I had 2 BSOD's in 2 years. Seems pretty stable to me.
Like I said, most of the "Vista is garbage" crap is just that, crap. It's anecdotal with very little basis in fact. If you had problems with it, then you were probably doing something wrong. I used it on several PC's and never had an issue. None. I don't think that makes me special.
If you had a great experience with Vista, that's great, I'm happy for you (truly, i am, I'm not being sarcastic here), but that does not devalue anyone else's experience just because yours was different. On the whole, Vista was reviled, and for good reason.
Please stop telling people it's their own fault that Vista sucked for them.
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