No, won't turn off my phone or leave it in the trunk. Just won't use it while driving...Quote:
Originally Posted by ntrddragn
The tax on smoking was to punish the ciggarette manufactures for ignorring the fact that it causes cancer. Smoking in Az. is banned in closed areas as well. I applaud this. Who wants to smell like an ashtray after they have a nice meal. If you want to smoke, go to a bar.
No - using the cell phone, period, is the culprit with the exception of a handsfree device.Quote:
Originally Posted by huskur
"point #1": This is the same type of distraction as using a cell phone and worse. Someday, you'll get in an accident and blame it on the other driver instead of your kids that actually caused the distraction.
"Point #2": You were lucky to not have a safety issue taking a phone call in your vehicle. You should; however, pull over if texting (so we're on the same page). Cell phones are the true culprit in this convo, not just texting.
This has been argued endlessly on this thread, so I won't rehash this point (whether or not talking on the phone is that much of a distraction).Quote:
Originally Posted by droidx2010
My question remains, if there are other things in the car that can be as much of a distraction as talking on the cellphone (not texting), then why not ban them as well? What doesn't fall under that category except for your hands being at 10 and 2 with your eyes constantly on the road?
The key distinction, for me, is the use of a hands free device. You tell me, what's the difference between conversing with a passenger within the vehicle and someone on the phone if I'm using a hands free device? There isn't one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziggie
The notion that having a conversation necessarily impairs one's driving is utter rubbish. It's the same as claiming that having the radio on turns someone into a bad driver. There's no truth to it.
Having limitations, though, like having to hold a phone to your head... I can completely accept that may be an issue, which is why I don't do it. Hands free devices make a huge, huge difference.
I personally hope they do it..
wow how did I miss all this... closing for a few.
Ok, I'm re-opening. I cleaned up anything that was related to a personal attack on this last page or so.
I know this is a hot-button issue for a lot of people, and this thread has almost stepped over the line a couple of times, but so far has maintained a decent level of respect. But please keep it respectful and refrain from any personal attacks. We all have differing opinions, that's what makes life interesting. If we can't respect each other in the process of "debating", then infractions will be handed out, and the thread will ultimately be shut down.
God help us if Google Goggles takes off:
http://youtu.be/t3TAOYXT840
it won't because it's not practical.
No offense taken. I'm conservative. I think critically. I forgot to put the Mr. Macky South Park "Guns are bad mmmkay?" into my paragraph and that totally changed the tone...Quote:
Originally Posted by LoudRam
We're an unarmed household by choice, but only because we are protected by the peace officers and soldiers who are actively making our city & country safe. I'm related to & know a few, and it's not a job I think I would ever be strong or brave enough to fulfill.
Where I was going is a little more archaic actually. In my *young* old age, I'm seeing connections between the oddest things, likethe hearing on the radio about a college "protester" at some occupy whatever location who'd written "pay my college tuition" on his sign impressed only himself by his own cleverness, I suddenly realized how quickly we've become an eBay meets Craig's List society. I'm gonna have a lot of trouble explaining that thought process, so I'll try to bow out for now. Maybe just broadcast whatever & see who buys it cuz somebody's bound to sooner or later...
It's my opinion that deep critical thinking requires more than the visceral emotional gut response to the tragedy of this situation. Federal laws can only coat the issue but not dig down deep where individuals need help changing habits. The big question is how to change the behavior, and Washington can't do that, AND MORE TO THE POINT THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS TRYING! Dictators gain power in this way, culling the masses on an irrational whim...
The way I see it, banning guns created a lucrative black market where it's nearly easier to buy high-powered military-grade firearms in an alley, and likewise saying we stop drivers for holding a phone has resulted in a steep rise of "lap texting." Or maybe it's just timing?
JENGA! A "simple" federal law won't help here. But man it will look impressive on paper and nobody wants to stand up and say wait we should NOT pass laws where other solutions could be far better, so they all step up, smile, and sign. And see my previous post about what happens to the people they think they're protecting from secondhand smoke...
Dizzying. What's bad about the object (insert phones, etc) is how dehumanizing it allows us to become. That's man's fault, not his technology, I know. But it sure moves faster than legislation can comprehend. So I think that cannot be the answer.