This thread is bound to keep growing quickly by its very nature. We all want to add in our thoughts because we care: about the issue, about the real-world effects (including death), about where we're headed as Americans... and we have this technology that lets us get our thoughts out there for others. I admit I haven't read the whole thing, but I plan to. I'd like to respond to the last half-dozen or so posts:
This hits the nail on the head. Officers of the law will tell you: the law is not the problem and it is not the solution. It's enforcement...
How many more people do we look around and see at intersections staring down at their belly buttons lately? Oh wait, no, that's a miniature touchscreen they're focusing on. No, you have to put down the phone AND look up to see them. Out the window. Yes, there they are! Oh, you're driving? Driving has become so easy (I have no idea how to drive manual transmission, and I don't ever fathom that being an option in my next car which apparently will be an electric hybrid)... and why do they have the devices in their laps, below eye level, are they afraid of getting caught using them but unwilling to stop?
This is an emotional topic. Duh, you say, but how many poorly-written, loose, (or practically impossible to enforce) laws do we need our government legislature billing us for? Please understand I write this as an asthmatic who didn't want the current SD state smoking ban imposed on businesses in the first place. But no, nobody wants to be the bad guy looking like they don't want to protect people from smoke, so it gets passed for emotionally guilty reasons without a critical second thought: where will these people smoke? Now instead of avoiding the bar downtown or the smoking section at a diner (my city in SD was the per capita restaurant capital of the USA less than 10yrs ago), I also have to avoid the adjacent shops because everybody who would smoke is smoking out front where I can't easily avoid it. But if I could wade my way through the fog, I am "free" to breathe easily at the bar. Yeah right!
Phones in general are wonderfully bad technology. Bullying is bad. Guns are bad. Puns are bad. I like salt and sugar, but I know too much is bad. Do I need my government telling me all this? Apparently we've elected individuals who do believe it's their duty, compassionately protecting me from evil and danger. What a mess we are in! And for that matter, where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?
So now that my hair is graying I feel I can be grumpy and say things, like: remember when we didn't have cordless phones? Convenience, or rather our fondness for it, is killing us. Perhaps it's time to decide where we place our care. I don't have to evangelize to show you how I want to live life but I may have to say something if you notice me and ask me why. Parents warn your children. Do your best to help them learn to think critically about important things. It all moves too fast and can't be undone.
I am of at least 2 minds on this matter: 1) the government should not be involved in deciding these things, and 2) people ought not only to know better, but to behave accordingly, perhaps being punished when they don't. Where's the line? It's been said before: driving isn't a right, it's a privilege. Same is true for phone conversations or other gadget usage. But rarely have I seen government successfully encourage individuals to act wisely.
Perhaps that's too cynical. Cynicism is bad, too. (:K
Recently I find it frustrating how many computer clients, when I say, "sorry I'm driving now & may I contact you later?" continue right into describing a software problem and expect full attention regardless. So then I don't answer when I drive. But does that make me a responsible business person, no I may miss out on a job or new client that way. But I am trying to be a responsible driver. And that's the point. Whatcha doin? Nothing, just driving...
NOT IN MOTION WHEN I WROTE THIS... but ironically could've!
I know this is a bit off topic but something that you said really struck a nerve with me. You said that cell phones are a wonderfully bad technology and that guns are bad and that we don't need the government telling us this because we know it. I guess I'm dumb because the last time I checked cell phone technology and guns were not bad. This is a sticking point with me. Both guns and cell phones are neither good nor bad. They are both inanimate objects. They can used for good or bad but they themselves are neither. This liberal thinking needs to be slammed down every time it comes up and that's why I couldn't let your comments go. Government and their need to intrude on my life needs to be brought to a screeching halt. In case you didn't see my posts on this topic I believe that this is a state issue. As with most things the feds have no business getting involved in this whatsoever.
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I think (maybe?) MrCat was trying to communicate that we live in a time where the inanimate objects are blamed and deemed "bad", regardless of the humans behind those inanimate objects. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's kinda how I took it actually...
The holder of the object is what determines good or bad. I carry a gun every single day in public, and to me, it is a good thing.
I know I pounced quick on that reply but I have heard so much BS from liberals trying to blame and ban guns instead of dealing with the scum using it. A little background on me. I'm ex military police so this is an issue near and dear to my heart.
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for all the people who are for this mandate, are you turning off your phone, throwing it in the trunk,leaving it at home or lock it up in the glove box once you open your car door to get in now, a year ago, 2 years ago? Did you do it since cell phone became popular? I mean, if you arent doing it and are waiting for a law to mandate it then all you are doing are pointing fingers.
all the govt want to do now is just pass laws and collect money in the name of public service and safety. example smoking, cigarette tax was help the state. and they increase the tax hoping to fund the early child hood development. it all sound nice but then they turn around and start imposing tons of law in california you cant smoke inside anywhere, 20 feet near a building etc etc so in turn the number of smokers drop. more quit because the tax was out of hand, now there is little money for the first 5 kids.
I admit to using my phone on occasion while driving, but I do so responsibly. Such as on a rural road at a stop light I'll quickly see who it was that texted me and will maybe send a quick text back, but I don't text when I know it will impair my driving.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I will not begrudge anyone for stating theirs but I do have something to add.... Point #1- I have twin 3 year old girls and a 6 year old boy. If I can hold simultaneous conversations with them on road trips and have to deal with the bickering and have no issues with it affecting my driving abilities, I think I can take a very simple phone call. Fact Point #2- I have owned a cell phone since the invention of the bagphone (remember those back in the early 90's) and I have NEVER had a safety issue taking a phone call in my vehicle. (so we are on the same page---I would never never never text unless I pulled off the road and stopped) Texting is your true culprit in this convo