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    The entire thread is arguing over the "RIGHT" to use a cell phone when and where you want, specifically while driving a car.

    OK then, let's get back to the basics.

    Driving a car or any lic. vehicle is a "PRIVILEGE" not a "RIGHT." Surprisingly a majority of individuals feel it's the other way around. To get that privilege you must submit to certain rules, regulations and laws. If you have a license, you agreed to those rules, regulations and laws to receive the PRIVILEGE. With me so far? 67% say no. I'll continue any way. When you got that license and signed your name you agreed to all of that stuff. You did, you really did. You say, But I never ....., but you did, you agreed.

    Now that we all agree and you know we do, I'll continue. Now here is where I can't be 100% sure, comfortable thinking so though, it's written in every drivers manual. Part of yours and my responsibility having been given the PRIVILEGE to drive (operate a motor vehicle, car, truck, etc.) is to do so SAFELY and RESPONSIBLY. Hmmm, the seatbelt issue came up here and yes it is the law to wear one while operating a motor vehicle, not motorcycles for those on the left coast. We do this without thinking for the most part, again giving special consideration to those mentioned previously about thinking. It's proven that wearing seat belts do save lives. I see another argument coming on that one. Save it people, this is about cell phones. Oh, seat belt use is a Federal Law, go figure. They did it without you knowing it. Told the states, you want highway money, make it happen. So the states passed laws so to speak. Great cover up on it's own.

    Now the Federal Govt. wants to make cell phone use while driving against the law. I for one agree with it, go figure. Now think about this for a moment, "If you have a license you agreed", to the laws. An easy solution for those of you that feel your rights are being taken away, give back your license. Your cell phone is more important, right!

    I for one have witnessed and we all have and gotten mad about it, far to many incidents of drivers not focusing on driving while talking on the phone and doing other things, primarily the phone.

    Now here is where it gets fun so to speak.

    Those with the ABOVE AVERAGE driving skills are driving in a city, small town or rural area and smack they run over your kid or theirs, grandma, a disabled vet, you get the picture, all because they have to be on that cell phone for something that is life or death. Seems in this case the latter is more likely. Or maybe it was me, actual professional driver, that does the dirty dead to them. Talk about *****ing to high heaven about me being on the phone and not paying attention to my driving, I don't understand why.

    Another thing to consider. Your in an accident, the state your in has a law of no cell phone use while driving, and you are on yours. Hit me or cause an accident with me involved and I guarantee my lawyer will be asking for and receiving a copy of your phone records. Oooops, if you were on your phone at the time of the incident, you have a bit of a problem. And, the longer you were on the the call the worse it looks for you.

    Folks thinks about it, I mean really think about it.

    Is using a cell phone while driving really worth a LIFE?

    I hope that it never happens to anyone, the odds are that it will, again is it really worth a LIFE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jntdroid View Post
    Squire you bring up really good points... and I don't disagree with you.

    My only hangup, again, is how do you regulate something like this, and where do you draw the line? Not everybody texts/updates FB (sigh at FB... ) with the phone up on their steering wheel. What if I drop something in my lap and I have to look down briefly or "fiddle" a little down there (no comments!) to get whatever I dropped? It could look like I'm texting, or whatever, and bam... $500 (hypothetically), when my phone is in my work bag next to me the entire time (like the officer will believe that). What if my wife sends me a text saying there's an emergency at home, I see it popup without even touching my phone, then calls me right after (this has happened to me). My bluetooth earpiece is dead and charging b/c I've been using it so much more. Yet I can't pickup the phone b/c I see a police officer, and I'm worried about the $500 fine. Should I not be allowed to pickup the phone and talk to her, even if just for a second?

    For every scenario that includes an idiot who can't prioritize what he should be doing in his vehicle, there's another one on the other side of that spectrum where legitimate and important usage occurs and doesn't cause any problems - you just never hear about those situations.

    We can say all day that we survived fine without cellphones before, but then you're getting into an entire paradigm shift in the way we live today. Maybe that's possible, and maybe that would be good for all of us, but it's not realistic IMHO.

    I get the problem, and I wish people would use their brains more and not give a crap about texting or updating FB or having long drawn out conversations in their cars - but to punish those that don't do that stuff when they actually need the technology is unfair, and again, seemingly impossible to regulate in my opinion.
    What did we do in the old days when we had to make a call? We pulled over and got on a pay phone. If you don't have or cannot afford a BT headset, or your car doesn't have it, or you left it at home, then you simply pull over into a parking lot and make the call. People survived for thousands of years without being able to make phone calls when driving.

    As for the rest, well, if the cop sees it and pulls you over, I guess he could ask to see the phone. If he sees that a call or text was made at the minute that he sighted you and pulled you over, bam, ticket.

    Just because there could be exceptions doesn't mean that the overall premise and goal is not worthwhile. We are talking lives here, lots of them, because people don't have the discipline to do the right thing and pose a danger to others. If people knew enough to not drink and drive, we wouldn't need DUI laws. Same applies here. If people didn't text and drive and call and drive and cause tens of thousands of accidents per year, many of them fatal, nobody would be proposing such laws.

    And the people that will kick and scream the most about these laws, will undoubtedly be the ones that are most guilty of doing this stuff in the first place and they don't want to be held responsible or punished. people that don't text and drive, won't care because the law won't affect them....

    If you can afford a phone and monthly plan, and the car, insurance and gas, then you can afford the one time $30 expense for a BT earpiece.

    Anyone that says that they cannot afford a $30 headset, is living so close to the edge financially that they have no business having a cell phone in the first place, IMHO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jntdroid
    Squire you bring up really good points... and I don't disagree with you.

    My only hangup, again, is how do you regulate something like this, and where do you draw the line? Not everybody texts/updates FB (sigh at FB... ) with the phone up on their steering wheel. What if I drop something in my lap and I have to look down briefly or "fiddle" a little down there (no comments!) to get whatever I dropped? It could look like I'm texting, or whatever, and bam... $500 (hypothetically), when my phone is in my work bag next to me the entire time (like the officer will believe that). What if my wife sends me a text saying there's an emergency at home, I see it popup without even touching my phone, then calls me right after (this has happened to me). My bluetooth earpiece is dead and charging b/c I've been using it so much more. Yet I can't pickup the phone b/c I see a police officer, and I'm worried about the $500 fine. Should I not be allowed to pickup the phone and talk to her, even if just for a second?

    For every scenario that includes an idiot who can't prioritize what he should be doing in his vehicle, there's another one on the other side of that spectrum where legitimate and important usage occurs and doesn't cause any problems - you just never hear about those situations.

    I get the problem, and I wish people would use their brains more and not give a crap about texting or updating FB or having long drawn out conversations in their cars - but to punish those that don't do that stuff when they actually need the technology is unfair, and again, seemingly impossible to regulate in my opinion.
    How do you regulate it...actually it is quite easy and the ones who are the most careless and irresponsible are the ones who will get caught...because they are so oblivious as to what is going on around them that you can observe them for quite awhile frantically texting or using their phone. I know...I see it everyday. Police cruisers are equipped with video, click on the video and, bam, gotcha!

    Is your wife's call an emergency (she may think so)? What do you do? You pull over to the side of the road when you can safely do so and call her back. If it is an emergency, she needs to call 911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TisMyDroid View Post
    How do you regulate it...actually it is quite easy and the ones who are the most careless and irresponsible are the ones who will get caught...because they are so oblivious as to what is going on around them that you can observe them for quite awhile frantically texting or using their phone. I know...I see it everyday. Police cruisers are equipped with video, click on the video and, bam, gotcha!

    Is your wife's call an emergency (she may think so)? What do you do? You pull over to the side of the road when you can safely do so and call her back. If it is an emergency, she needs to call 911.

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    Yup. I am betting that less than 1% of the calls we make or receive are actual emergencies.
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    Y'all bring up a good point about pulling over, that's ultimately the best solution. I threw that incident in there to play devil's advocate a little bit.

    I lol'd when I saw this on my Facebook timeline just now (I follow a guy who is all about embracing technology, but keeping it in check and not letting it run our lives, etc... called "the off switch"). He just posted this:

    If You've Ever Sent A Text While Driving, You Have To Watch This Video Right Now

    Here's the video:


    The irony of the timing of this and that it was in my FB is almost too much...

    That test might not be scientifically identical to real life as they're taking a test, driving through unfamiliar cones, and having to listen to instructions at the same time, but it gets the point across regardless.
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    Perfect timing, thanks for sharing.
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    Lightbulb Re: There Ought To Be a Law...

    "Do you think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. There’s no way to rule innocent men.
    The only power the government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them.
    One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
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    ...but what does she know? She is just an old lady and cell phones were not even around when she was born, right?

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    Lol! Too too funny. Of course you weren't watching the video while driving. The crazy ironic thing is some would.

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    Oops previous comment was in response to jntdroid's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overland1 View Post
    ...but what does she know? She is just an old lady and cell phones were not even around when she was born, right?

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    It's a little scary how we seem to be headed down the path of Atlas Shrugged!
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