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Thread: Motorola Photon announced for Sprint, ships with unlocked boatloader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnomaz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jroc View Post
    Wow..

    Too bad Sprint sucks in my area. Its Verizon or AT&T for me. If this really is unlocked and the one on Verizon is locked...I dont know what to say...
    You could easily say that Verizon is the muscle behind locking their phones bootloaders.

    Also, Sprint sucks for me too. Oh well.
    it isnt the carrier that decides to lock the bootloaders
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    I think Moto just won their next 1 million customers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvado View Post
    it isnt the carrier that decides to lock the bootloaders
    One can't assume they play no part in the decision, though, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jntdroid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malvado View Post
    it isnt the carrier that decides to lock the bootloaders
    One can't assume they play no part in the decision, though, right?
    Well u ppl can play the blame game but verizon announced via twitter that WE CAN HAVE DEVICES WITH UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvado View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvado View Post
    it isnt the carrier that decides to lock the bootloaders
    One can't assume they play no part in the decision, though, right?
    Well u ppl can play the blame game but verizon announced via twitter that WE CAN HAVE DEVICES WITH UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS...

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    Talk about taking something out of context and reading what you want into it.

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    @andrewwalberg I have confirmed we allow phones w/ unlocked bootloaders to be activated on our network. Sorry for the misinformation.

    Where does it say that they'll be actively bringing phones to their lineup with unlocked bootloaders? Oh it doesn't. It say's you can activate a phone on their network if the bootloader is unlocked. It doesn't say they'll be debuting phones with unlocked bootloaders, or even so much as an un-encrypted/unsigned bootloader.

    How one gets from permitting unlocked bootloaders to making a blanket statement that all devices should come with unlocked bootloaders because it's permitted is beyond me.
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    I hope mto gets a clue...

    HTC has pledged to unlock from this point, Samsung has sent free phones to CyanogenMod devs and Sony has said they will put a site up to unlock phones. So for those who say we don't have any say, or that it is just gonna get worse with locked down phones I think they need to look at what is happening.. Other than Moto, which is usually their own worse enemy, most other top OEMs are going to open phones up more not lock them down more. So that is a win for us and a loss for moto... Just look at HTC, sales twice last years numbers for the same period... Obviously their strategy is working just fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sb1831 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Malvado View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jntdroid View Post

    One can't assume they play no part in the decision, though, right?
    Well u ppl can play the blame game but verizon announced via twitter that WE CAN HAVE DEVICES WITH UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS...

    Sent from my DROID2
    Talk about taking something out of context and reading what you want into it.

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    @andrewwalberg I have confirmed we allow phones w/ unlocked bootloaders to be activated on our network. Sorry for the misinformation.

    Where does it say that they'll be actively bringing phones to their lineup with unlocked bootloaders? Oh it doesn't. It say's you can activate a phone on their network if the bootloader is unlocked. It doesn't say they'll be debuting phones with unlocked bootloaders, or even so much as an un-encrypted/unsigned bootloader.

    How one gets from permitting unlocked bootloaders to making a blanket statement that all devices should come with unlocked bootloaders because it's permitted is beyond me.
    i didnt say they were bringing phones into their lineup...im just saying exactly what u said, that YOU CAN activate a phone with unlocked bootloaders!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvado View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvado View Post
    it isnt the carrier that decides to lock the bootloaders
    One can't assume they play no part in the decision, though, right?
    Well u ppl can play the blame game but verizon announced via twitter that WE CAN HAVE DEVICES WITH UNLOCKED BOOTLOADERS...

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    not trying to play a blame game, just think it's a little silly to think Verizon has zero say in it - especially with how they're clamping down on tetherers/rooters... and based on a twitter post alone. Of course they can have them, heck, they do currently. Bootloaders have nothing to do with the phone working on a network, generally speaking anyway. Anyway, not a big deal, didn't mean to start a debate, just wanted to throw my .02 in - whether it's wrong or not!
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