Death of Game Emulators

[Sydman]

@ Malvado..No warning but no need for one it won't happen again, I follow the rules when I know them.

@ UNC..While I do agree with you on the virtual console on the Wii being nice, how many time do they expect me to pay for 8 bit Super Mario Bros. I had the first one on NES with Duck Hunt, then the one with Duck Hunt and Track and Field. Then I gotSuper Mario All Stars on Super Nintendo and then my special edition Gameboy SP that looks like a NES console with Super Mario Bros. I actually even bought it on the Wii VC, I think I earned the right to play it for free on my Droid.

[czerdrill]

@ Malvado..No warning but no need for one it won't happen again, I follow the rules when I know them.

@ UNC..While I do agree with you on the virtual console on the Wii being nice, how many time do they expect me to pay for 8 bit Super Mario Bros. I had the first one on NES with Duck Hunt, then the one with Duck Hunt and Track and Field. Then I gotSuper Mario All Stars on Super Nintendo and then my special edition Gameboy SP that looks like a NES console with Super Mario Bros. I actually even bought it on the Wii VC, I think I earned the right to play it for free on my Droid.

You pay for separate products if you want them. That's how it works, that's how it's always worked, that's how it'll work till the end of time.

By your logic, why would I have to buy the Blu-Ray disk if I have the DVD? Why would I have to buy the XBOX version, when I have the PS3 version? Why would I have to buy the Mac version when I have the PC version?

[Sydman]

Ok I can see the logic there, when Nintendo puts out a Super Mario Bros for Android I will buy it to make up for use of emulator.

[kodiak799]

You pay for separate products if you want them. That's how it works, that's how it's always worked, that's how it'll work till the end of time.

Yes and no. Digital media, especially software, doesn't really follow that model. If you buy an mp3, you are free to put it on as many devices as you want. Same with a DVD on any compatible player, or the mp4 file or whatever. I guess I'd have to read the fine print (and discover I'm wrong), but generally when you buy an mp3, or a video, or a game you are buying a license for personal use of that content so I'm pretty sure they can't get you for piracy for getting a copy to play on another platform. Of course, they can go after the distributor.

I get your point, but it is kind of a grey area and consumers have a right to be upset. Quite frankly, mp3's were a godsend because cd's rarely survived more than a few parties.

[Sydman]

I would be willing to trade my four other hard copies of Super Mario Bros for one soft copy I can do whatever I please with

[czerdrill]

You pay for separate products if you want them. That's how it works, that's how it's always worked, that's how it'll work till the end of time.

Yes and no. Digital media, especially software, doesn't really follow that model. If you buy an mp3, you are free to put it on as many devices as you want. Same with a DVD on any compatible player, or the mp4 file or whatever. I guess I'd have to read the fine print (and discover I'm wrong), but generally when you buy an mp3, or a video, or a game you are buying a license for personal use of that content so I'm pretty sure they can't get you for piracy for getting a copy to play on another platform. Of course, they can go after the distributor.

I get your point, but it is kind of a grey area and consumers have a right to be upset. Quite frankly, mp3's were a godsend because cd's rarely survived more than a few parties.

We're not talking one software across multiple compatible devices. We're talking several software formats across incompatible devices. You pay if you wanna play. No grey area. With an mp3, its one standard format that works across all mp3 players that support it. Same with a dvd (with regional restrictions of course).

And ROMs are most probably illegal. The "you have a right to copy your games as a backup" thing is more likely an urban legend then anything true, although I can't say that for certain.

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[czerdrill]

http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#emulator

Theres nintendos take on it including the you can backup if you own a copy misconception. I'm going to assume that they have a legal backing to the claims on that page...

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[kodiak799]

| Nintendo - Corporate Information | Legal Information (Copyrights, Emulators, ROMs, etc.)

Theres nintendos take on it including the you can backup if you own a copy misconception. I'm going to assume that they have a legal backing to the claims on that page...

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Yeah, you're right. Real lost a case with the implications that even back-up copies are not legal.

But that's for DVD's (and presumably music). It is, however, apparently legal to back-up computer software. But, yeah, I imagine even if you could directly extract the rom from the catridge, it's not a back-up if used to play on another device.

[kodiak799]

Darn no edit.

That's the legal position as of now, but I have to imagine the landscape will change with time because ultimately you're buying the content and not the package. Granted, to large extent digital delivery of mp3's and movies has already taken care of that issue.

[czerdrill]

Darn no edit.

That's the legal position as of now, but I have to imagine the landscape will change with time because ultimately you're buying the content and not the package. Granted, to large extent digital delivery of mp3's and movies has already taken care of that issue.

Definitely. If there comes a time where all software is completely standardized and reverse engineered across multiple platforms none of this will probably matter and won't even be enforceable really.

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