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Thread: Toshiba Expresses Bold Confidence in their Android Tablet - Takes Direct Aim at iPad2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweettooth View Post
    I think too many people are missing the point; the idea isn't to have one, all powerful device that nothing else can compete with. Competition is what makes these devices great and what makes them keep getting better.
    I agree with your sentiment 100%, and I'm sorry my message implied an either-or world. I wonder, though, when a company (Apple) has a choke-hold on a market (tablets), whether your principle holds: what SHOULD happen is a proliferation of diverse devices, suited to different people's needs. Indeed, with Windows and HP/Palm tablets in the marketplace with Android and Apple, that diversity should occur.

    In reality, though, what I'm afraid will happen is one product will predominate--and more or less set the standard for the "have to have" features--while the other devices will remain in a much smaller, secondary market. In that scenario, the competition will never really flourish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetrants View Post
    In reality, though, what I'm afraid will happen is one product will predominate--and more or less set the standard for the "have to have" features--while the other devices will remain in a much smaller, secondary market. In that scenario, the competition will never really flourish.
    I don't think it will "dominate" per se, I'd expect a long-run game similar to what we are seeing with smartphones.

    I realize the IPad wasn't the first tablet, but they made the market relevant. And you see this again and again in different industries - the first major player has nearly 100% share because it's pretty much the only player. Then more mfrs get in and that also helps create further demand, and they take share from the innovator even while the innovator continues to sell MORE devices on smaller share of a much larger market.

    Ultimately I think it's all about the smartphone, anyway, with tablets and PC's just being dummy shells powered by your smartphone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweettooth View Post
    I think too many people are missing the point; the idea isn't to have one, all powerful device that nothing else can compete with. That's narrowminded thinking and you end up like one of those people who said a computer will never need any more than a few hundred MB. It creates a monopoly and a linear vision of what technological advancement means. Competition is what makes these devices great and what makes them keep getting better.

    The iPad 1 or 2 and the XOOM or any other device are not duplicates, they are great devices on different networks and by different manufacturers with their own sets of unique features as well as all the ones consumers come to expect. In an ideal world, products made by Apple, Google, Microsoft, and everyone else should all have groundbreaking devices that way each is constantly at one another's throat trying to one up the other. You know what happens when they do that? WE WIN!
    Indeed!
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    When will it be released? Im getting the first tegra device thats wifi only...Xoom will probably win. I want this device more though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dextroz View Post
    Keep in mind Toshiba:

    1. If there is a skin on that UI - you fail automagically
    2. If you don't update the tablet for the next 2 years - you fail automagically
    3. If you lock the bootloader - you double-fail automagically
    4. If you encrypt/sign the kernel - you triple-fail automagically
    Automatically....
    Uh, no it's "automagically" I'm fairly sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnytheK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dextroz View Post
    Keep in mind Toshiba:

    1. If there is a skin on that UI - you fail automagically
    2. If you don't update the tablet for the next 2 years - you fail automagically
    3. If you lock the bootloader - you double-fail automagically
    4. If you encrypt/sign the kernel - you triple-fail automagically
    Automatically....
    Uh, no it's "automagically" I'm fairly sure.
    +1 ^ Usually I'm the fascist spell-checker, but I think that's the right word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnytheK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dextroz View Post
    Keep in mind Toshiba:

    1. If there is a skin on that UI - you fail automagically
    2. If you don't update the tablet for the next 2 years - you fail automagically
    3. If you lock the bootloader - you double-fail automagically
    4. If you encrypt/sign the kernel - you triple-fail automagically
    Automatically....
    Uh, no it's "automagically" I'm fairly sure.
    i like automagically. I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kodiak799 View Post
    Ultimately I think it's all about the smartphone, anyway, with tablets and PC's just being dummy shells powered by your smartphone.
    i highly doubt this. smartphones can't come close to the cloud for price/performance.

    i think its more likely that we'll have a plethora of cheap devices hooked up to the cloud and we'll pay a subscription based on how much resources we use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfood8891 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kodiak799 View Post
    Ultimately I think it's all about the smartphone, anyway, with tablets and PC's just being dummy shells powered by your smartphone.
    i highly doubt this. smartphones can't come close to the cloud for price/performance.

    i think its more likely that we'll have a plethora of cheap devices hooked up to the cloud and we'll pay a subscription based on how much resources we use.
    Your prediction will prove false for three reasons:

    (1) It is intuitive.
    (2) It is practical.
    (3) It is equitable/fair.

    I somehow suspect that our (thus-far) monopolizing tel-cos don't operate according to such principles (their logic and business model seems anchored somewhere in 1983). But who knows...if the line between the internet and wireless communication keeps blurring--and more importantly, if "do no evil" companies like Google keep giving us stuff like GPS and navigation and phone calls for free--maybe things like "free (or low-cost) wifi everywhere" and "pay for consumption" models will eventually happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dextroz View Post
    Keep in mind Toshiba:

    1. If there is a skin on that UI - you fail automagically
    2. If you don't update the tablet for the next 2 years - you fail automagically
    3. If you lock the bootloader - you double-fail automagically
    4. If you encrypt/sign the kernel - you triple-fail automagically
    1. I don't want that, but there are probably many who like it.
    2. True.
    3. I couldn't care less and neither do 95% of the buyers.
    4. I couldn't care less and neither do 95% of the buyers.

    95% of buyers of these devices just want a tablet that works, that they don't have to modify and that equals or beats the iPad for features, stability and performance. They have no desire to root or add ROMs. Toshiba, nor any other company, will make it or fail depending what the people on this forum think or buy.
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