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    Question what is stopping someone from making htc sense apps run on droid?

    i really like the sense apps. so, i was wondering what is so difficult about taking the sense apk's and making little changes to port them over to the droid? i dont know about this stuff, but it seems like it shouldnt be too hard. if we got a majority of them ported then we could load them up into a custom rom and boom. have people tried? what is ultimately stopping this from working?
    i know the devs are really smart, so i dont understand why they couldnt make the necessary changes to them to make them work on drod. (no disrespect. you guys are brillant and seeing what u've done, i think you devs could do anything)

    i would pay if someone got most sense apps to work on droid.
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    Well from a legal stand point you can't, because I'm pretty sure Sense UI (and its widgets) are not open source like the base android is.
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    Let me clarify, I understand how difficult it can be to port apps to other phones. So instead I think they could try rebuilding the app from copying the sense app. Use the same code and images, but rebuild it so it would work on a droid, then put all the new apk's into a system image in a rom.
    I don't know about this stuff, like I said, but is there a reason what I just described wouldn't work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrc View Post
    Well from a legal stand point you can't, because I'm pretty sure Sense UI (and its widgets) are not open source like the base android is.
    Yes, I think that is true, but zeusdroid tried to port the entire rom over, so what would htc do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tktouch12 View Post
    i dont know about this stuff, but it seems like it shouldnt be too hard.
    Gotta love statements like that. Famous last words. Everything looks easy when you're not aware of the details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tktouch12 View Post
    what is stopping someone from making htc sense apps run on droid?
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    Because it just doesn't make any sense.

    Stop it. If i didn't say it someone else would of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by takeshi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tktouch12 View Post
    i dont know about this stuff, but it seems like it shouldnt be too hard.
    Gotta love statements like that. Famous last words. Everything looks easy when you're not aware of the details.
    Lol. No. I'm sure it would be terribly dificult, but the devs have done such amazing things I believe they could do it unless there is some strange problem.
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    Unlike the core Android components, HTC does not release the source code of their proprietary software. So figuring out what to change would be more impossible than difficult.

    This isn't in the same category as building a kernel from source or swapping out some PNGs in an APK so the app will match a theme.

    It would be easier to build the app from scratch than to reverse engineer someone else's code and hack it together to work outside of Sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcapozzi View Post
    Unlike the core Android components, HTC does not release the source code of their proprietary software. So figuring out what to change would be more impossible than difficult.

    This isn't in the same category as building a kernel from source or swapping out some PNGs in an APK so the app will match a theme.

    It would be easier to build the app from scratch than to reverse engineer someone else's code and hack it together to work outside of Sense.

    -Mike
    Ok. That makes sense. So the only real way anyone could do this wold be to start from stratch? But then could someone fairly easily make apps that work exactly like the sense apps by looking at the sense apk's? And couldn't they even use the sense pngs to make it look the same? Would that be more doable? Because they have the sense apps to use as a guide.

    Or maybe its just not realistic.
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