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Thread: Bugless Beast 950mHz...no speed difference?

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    Bugless Beast 950mHz...no speed difference?

    I really don't notice a difference. Everything is great, it just isn't lightning fast like people say. Could this be due to using the update.zip each time instead of the "fresh" nandroid backup?

    I'd like to write and link a guide from my update.zip guide (in my sig) about installing using nandroid backup, but no one seems to have a good answer about keeping your apps, settings, and data. someone said only back up everything but data when doing the restore, but that the developer put the apps and stuff in the wrong folder so that way won't work?

    Sounds stupid...but I'd like to try it this way to a) see if it speeds things up and b) so I can get familiar enough with doing it this way to create a guide.
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    I'm planning on doing a fresh install, it seems slower on my Droid than on my fiance's Droid (she has less apps and I had a sholes ROM installed before BB, she didn't) so I'm thinking a nandroid install might do the trick on mine as well... I'm also curious as to how to save your apps and data from right now and restoring it after a nandroid...wouldn't it work to do a nandroid backup right now, fresh nandroid install BB, and then do a DATA ONLY nandroid restore from what I just backed up? Sorry if that is difficult to read, hard to word what I'm trying to say...
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    That's what I thought, and then I read in another thread saying that the apps weren't put into data or something so it wouldn't restore. I'll link you the thread:

    http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dro...-question.html
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    I am not sure that thread is entirely true... If it is, and I'm wrong, then that's fine I can admit it if someone can prove to me, but originally when I rooted, I installed a sholes rom, and the process of installing that had me use a virgin_oem nandroid restore which I am almost positive cleared all my data from the phone, and then after the installation of the sholes rom, I restored data only from my original backup before root, and it kept all my apps, texts, e-mails, data files, etc. so unless it is just something completely different from that in BB, if you restore AFTER the full install of BB, then I THINK it will work the same way.

    Like I said, if anyone can provide some insight into this matter that is fine, I am going off of what I did before and what I will be trying tonight after I can use a CPU that can extract .rar files (I'm at work I can't download winRAR and I haven't found a way to extract a .rar file from a Droid alone)
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    Ive been update.zip'ing my way from stock->sholes 1.1->bb 7.1->bb 7.4 and it works great. Using setcpu widget set your clock to 550 and run through your home screens (fill em with widgets), then set it at 950 and slide through them.... if its doesn't seem as smooth as an iWhatever you may have done something wrong.
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    I suppose I could be reading too much into this OC'ing than it is worth. People saying words like "night and day," and "puts stock to shame" to me means something fantastic. I notice a speed increase, but it is nowhere near worthy of saying those things about it, at least to me.

    I'm fairly certain that doing a fresh install from nandroid may fix my issue though, because I did the same EXACT steps on my fiance's phone, did it myself, and hers does seem to run faster and cooler than mine does.

    I don't know, I'm definitely glad I did it, but it isn't quite as seamless as I would like it to be, especially since everyone else is saying that it should be absolutely seamless....
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    I initially installed each version using the update.zip method and for this latest one (0.7.4) I bit the bullet and did the full Nandroid restore. The Nandroid method without question resulted in a faster/snappier feel. Totally different. The update.zips also don't give you all the features/apps that the Nandroid does. This is really a very fast and great ROM.
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    That is completely not true. The update.ZIP doesn't DELETE things. It doesn't not offer as many features
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    The update.zip is meant to allow you to keep your programs. That's why Pete has the two different methods. It's worked great for me. But you could always try the nanodroid method (i.e. complete wipe and install) if the update isn't working correctly.

    As to the speed be sure to go into SetCPU and get it configured properly. Also change the "CPU Governor" to "performance" I've noticed that (as of the latest update) any other setting seems to throttle it back.

    From within SetCPU alone the Benchmark score should go from high 400s to high 200s at 800Mhz. 900Mhz will take it to mid 200s. Same results for other benchmarks (i.e. 900Mhz is really that much better than 800Mhz, IMHO). I have def noticed a difference in screen load times and other basic tasks. Everything is 'smoother' but I would say it's "night and day" or anything spectacular. But it is noticeable. You may also want to grab one of the other kernel to see if that makes a difference:
    AllDroid - View topic - Droid is stable at 800MHz. Nuff said *950MHz, 1.1GHz added*
    You'll notice again the biggest jump is to 800Mhz from stock, 950 doesn't seem to make that much more difference, I'm personally sticking at 800 as to not shorten my chips lifespan too much (just to be safe).

    Quote Originally Posted by mrnelson86 View Post
    I'm fairly certain that doing a fresh install from nandroid may fix my issue though, because I did the same EXACT steps on my fiance's phone, did it myself, and hers does seem to run faster and cooler than mine does.

    I don't know, I'm definitely glad I did it, but it isn't quite as seamless as I would like it to be, especially since everyone else is saying that it should be absolutely seamless....
    Remember that in ANY computer there can be good amount of difference/variance in performance from the CPU(s) and other components. Chips are only tested to meet 'minimal' standards so in a typical batch there will be a % that are 'faster' these chips will naturally perform even better when overclocked. Also even the ability and tolerance of a chip to withstand overclocking can very WIDELY from chip to chip within a batch. Anyone that has spent time OC computers has learned that the hard way....
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    Read thru the threads. There are many users that are saying that they don't have certain features that others do. Some phones home screens switch in landscape, others don't. Some have tethering included, others don't. I think that if you applied each update.zip in sequence starting at the beginning then perhaps you end up with the same result. However, if one was skipped like going from 0.7.2 to 0.7.4 like I did, then you are definitely going to be missing some stuff. I didn't want to apply 0.7.3 because people seemed to be reporting alot of FCs and such. I did not have tethering installed and my homescreen still switched in landscape when I went from 0.7.2 to 0.7.4 using update.zip. The Nandroid 0.7.4 gave me all of the latest features including tethering and no landscape switch on homescreen
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