I dont think we know what we are asking for. See vzw paid apple to sell the iphone and apple sets the price and the rules. So the iphone will stay the same price until the next one comes out. Android all you have to do is wait a month and you can get 2 of the same device with a bogo deal. Do I hate bloatware, yes. But in the grand scheme of things I know Ima root and run a custom rom any way so it no longer bothers me.