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    I'm at 100% right now and the little "feeding" light on the side is out. So, its 100%. I'm leaving it plugged in, but I'm dubious at this point.

    Will report back in a week. Maybe longer.

    I DID notice my phone went frmo 70% to dead in the span of about 1.5 hours a few weeks ago, under heavy usage (shoutcast stream, texting and surfing the internet all at the same time for about 1.5 hours straight). Wasn't happy about that, so I'll just leave my phone plugged in all tonight and most of tomorrow and see what happens.


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    Edited my original post and removed caps. My bad....

    Regardless of how or why this works, the directions in the Droid booklet state to charge the phones for 24 hours before use.

    Put this to the test. Worked for me, hopefully it will work for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trever1t View Post
    I find that not using my phone extends the battery life greatly

    seriously though, how can you charge it beyond what it accepts? The phone stops charging when it 'thinks' it's fully charged, no?
    There is hardware circuitry that will stop it from charging when it thinks it is full.

    I'm not sure how Android calibrates itself to the battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    Edited my original post and removed caps. My bad....

    Regardless of how or why this works, the directions in the Droid booklet state to charge the phones for 24 hours before use.

    Put this to the test. Worked for me, hopefully it will work for you!
    If it is from the booklet then there must be a reason. Thanks for the info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iPirate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trever1t View Post
    I find that not using my phone extends the battery life greatly

    seriously though, how can you charge it beyond what it accepts? The phone stops charging when it 'thinks' it's fully charged, no?
    There is hardware circuitry that will stop it from charging when it thinks it is full.

    I'm not sure how Android calibrates itself to the battery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff5886 View Post
    Edited my original post and removed caps. My bad....

    Regardless of how or why this works, the directions in the Droid booklet state to charge the phones for 24 hours before use.

    Put this to the test. Worked for me, hopefully it will work for you!
    If it is from the booklet then there must be a reason. Thanks for the info!
    Your welcome!

    I am not trying to argue how the battery works per se; I just want to share my experience with the battery and try and help others in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hughesjr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hookbill View Post
    Maybe I should have used the large font. Spreading misinformation is not beneficial.
    You are ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.

    The battery does not have memory like the old batteries from several years ago ... it does, however, have circuitry (actually a processor for charging) that need to be calibrated.

    How to prolong lithium-based batteries
    Respectfully I think you need to do some research into modern day lithium batteries. They do not have memories, they don't require a full 24 hour charge even.

    I have researched this pretty heavily. I came from the school of thought that batteries had memories and that you should fully discharge them before recharging. That simply is not the case with these new batteries.

    You all can argue if you like, but I've had this conversation at lest 50 times. Usually I have a slew of people who back me on this but I'm not getting it on this thread. So think what you want. I'll leave you be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hookbill View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hughesjr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hookbill View Post
    Maybe I should have used the large font. Spreading misinformation is not beneficial.
    You are ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.

    The battery does not have memory like the old batteries from several years ago ... it does, however, have circuitry (actually a processor for charging) that need to be calibrated.

    How to prolong lithium-based batteries
    Respectfully I think you need to do some research into modern day lithium batteries. They do not have memories, they don't require a full 24 hour charge even.

    I have researched this pretty heavily. I came from the school of thought that batteries had memories and that you should fully discharge them before recharging. That simply is not the case with these new batteries.

    You all can argue if you like, but I've had this conversation at lest 50 times. Usually I have a slew of people who back me on this but I'm not getting it on this thread. So think what you want. I'll leave you be.
    So, in a nutshell : I'm the idiot.

    Understood. I'm still leaving this bad boy plugged in though. Can't hurt.


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    You do not need to charge your battery for 24 hours. This is false information. All you have done is taken a scenario where it seems like that is what fixed your battery problem, when in reality your problem is/was something else. There is countless documentation on this subject and it has been answered thousands of times. Usually the issue for poor battery life is usually application related. For instance, I was noticing my battery dropped fairly quickly. I also noticed my GPS was constantly being used for some reason. Turned out I had Google.com set as my start page in dolphin browser. Now I can't tell you why but for some reason if the browser was open and on Google it would constantly use the GPS. If i exited the browser (hold the back button and select exit) and not just tapping the back button or home page, the problem would go away. Now I can't tell you why Google in Dolphin Browser was forcing the GPS to constantly acquire a location, but for some reason it was. This was not an issue in the Stock Browser that came with the phone.

    Long story short most times applications are eating up your battery life, and you have unknowingly done something around the same time you let your battery sit on charge for 24 hours. This has caused you to believe that putting your battery on charge for 24 hours as fixed your issues.

    Now as to why they put this in your manual. Well that is pretty simple to explain. Many people in the world are completely ignorant. They put this 24 hours rule in the manual to keep people from complaining or returning the phone due to it only showing a 60% charge after they bought. When in reality all that had to be done is simply charge the phone. I know it sounds dumb, but its called idiot proofing. Unfortunately for us, this makes it look like our batteries will not work properly unless charged for 24 hours according to manual.

    Bottom Line: It is completely unnecessary to completely drain, fully charge, or charge for 24 hours.
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    All i am saying guys is that this worked for me. Who knows why....it just worked for me.
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    Again that is my point. "IT" did not work for you. Something else you did (knowingly or unknowingly), did work for you. There are a ridiculous amounts of variables involved here. What I'm trying to get across is if our Engineers had the same reasoning you are having, then all our bridges would have collapsed, we wouldn't have power, and we'd more than likely be stuck a period of dark ages.

    I'm just trying to say that your reasoning as to why this fixed your battery is incredibly flawed. I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm trying to tell you how it is. It is because people reason like this is the main cause to why misinformation is spread like wildfires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syxxpakc View Post
    Again that is my point. "IT" did not work for you. Something else you did (knowingly or unknowingly), did work for you. There are a ridiculous amounts of variables involved here. What I'm trying to get across is if our Engineers had the same reasoning you are having, then all our bridges would have collapsed, we wouldn't have power, and we'd more than likely be stuck a period of dark ages.

    I'm just trying to say that your reasoning as to why this fixed your battery is incredibly flawed. I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm trying to tell you how it is. It is because people reason like this is the main cause to why misinformation is spread like wildfires.
    You really need to relax. You are really jumping the gun insisting that charging the phone for 24 did not help this Droid owner when you have no proof. As an engineer myself, I can tell you there is no such thing as a "sure" thing. Your "expert" opinion on why the Motorola engineers instruct Droid users to charge their Droid for 24 hours is misinformation.
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