Easier SDK needed

[bananazx]

I would like to see one like Delphi. I like to draw an user interface with minimal coding. It would help people with idea but have less programming skills or time.

Is Android SDK the only choice we have now?

[Talty09]

no offense, but if you are looking to make an app that requires "less programming skill" then how do you expect it to be a decent app?

[bananazx]

You don't have to be a stick shift driver to drive cars well when there are cars with automatic transmission. You don't have to open the hood of your car to check oil level when the dashboard tells you that you are not out of oil. Before "Visual" anything, programming for Windows required lots of code that we don't have to deal with these days. Of course we have much more to learn due to the increased functionality of the newer Windows though.

[natediddy1120]

yeah I know what you mean man. Windows used to be nothing but good ole command prompt way back lol. And during that time, I belive there were only like 10% of Americans that owned computers because they required a LOT of knowledge to run and to get anything done on them. But the GUI replaced that and I believe the % of computer owners skyrocketed.

But at this time, the Android SDK, Eclipse, and MotoDev are the only tools for Android developers. I would suggest looking into C++ and Java...

[Talty09]

I am programming an iPhone app right now. Hard? Hell yes. But would I want an easier way? Not a chance. You bring up many good points. For example, "you don't have to know how to drive a stick to drive a car well." Couple points on that. You are trying to program a functional application. Would you hire a race car driver who didn't know how to drive a standard? Didn't think so. Do pro drivers drive automatic when at work? No. You also say "You don't have to open the hood of your car to check oil level when the dashboard tells you that you are not out of oil." Again, true for a casual user....but if you were a mechanic would you trust the dashboard light/gauge? Thought so. You are going to be putting the time in this app. Why not work a couple more days on doing it the right way? It honestly makes no sense. No offense but I know a lot of my programming/computer co-workers and classmates would call you a "scripty kiddie." You want an easy way to do a hard task.

[Talty09]

To elaborate more. It is better you do it the hard/correct way and fully understand the ins and outs of your program and the sdk rather than a cheap quick way. Memory mgt. and transitions are key in a smooth app. If you look at the gripes people have on android and apple apps are they are slow and don't transition well. What do you think a "do-it-easy" method would do?

[bananazx]

IMO, crappy programmers make crappy program no matter what tools they use. What is the correct way anyway? I remember I had hard time learning to program for Windows 3.1 when it first came out. Soon after, new IDEs and SDK came out, which made my learning obsolete. Using the third party SDK makes it not correct? If speed is all that matters, assembly language is the best choice. I know that SDK made programming easier than without it, but simply I want some more. You know how hard it is to program for iPhone. Don't you want it to be easier? Everyone does.