DroidForums.net is the original Verizon Android Forum! Registered Users do not see these ads. Please Register - It's Free!
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 23

Thread: what do you think? Google Android's self-destruction derby begins

  1. Droid
    Mr. Premium's Avatar
    Member #
    13433
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    55
    Phone
    Motorola Droid
    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by EvilWays View Post
    i have an iphone fanboy friend who sees this as a problem, personally, i dont. I still have a computer at home running xp, i ignored vista, and have another running windows 7, i see this as the same situation. theres no way to have 1 os on all phones without becoming apple or even worse, palm. palm os and iphone os work great on every phone they were released on because the os manufacturer worked very closely with and/or even controlled production of hardware, so if we want veriety in hardware, there will ineveitably be veriety in firmware.
    A few things wrong with your comparison. Microsoft releases a new desktop OS about every three years. Look at the time frame from 2.0 to 2.1. The G1 is hardly 2 years old and it lacks a ton of features 2.01 or 2.1 devices have. Also you don't have to sign a contract to buy a PC.

    Then look at the G1 to the Droid or N1 and compare it to the original iPhone to the 3GS or the 3G to the 3GS. The experience is the same except for some minor features.

    I am just being open minded. I like my droid but I think this is an issue and might ruin android for me.
  2. Droid
    dub8420's Avatar
    Member #
    24007
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    61
    Phone
    motorola droid
    #12
    I think that's just an over-exaggeration of something that is a good thing in the phone world twisted into a negative. if I had the droid where it was at right out of the box with no updates other than some bug fixes then I would still be more than happy with my decision and that's why you do research before you buy a phone. All the upgrades are greatly appreciated perks and android is setting an amazing standard.
  3. Droid
    droidkm's Avatar
    Member #
    33482
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    52
    Phone
    droid
    #13
    the upgrades are perks, for now. and then a year from now when it's no longer perks that your phone doesn't have but major functionality upgrades and major design/appearance improvements, you won't be so casually thinking that the upgrades are just bonuses we should be grateful for. nobody owes us updates necessarily, but it is in our own best interest to ensure the longevity of the devices we just bought, and them setting a standard of not giving my device everything they could is a sign that i will be buying a new one sooner than i otherwise might need to, which i think is an outcome it's entirely reasonable to try to avoid.
  4. Droid
    jaydee6385's Avatar
    Member #
    403
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Scottsboro, AL
    Posts
    64
    Phone
    Motorola Drooooooooid.
    #14
    Do y'all think whenever they drop 4G will they start out with a new android os, say 3.0, to have an even platform. Or will they have them on different versions like they have now?
  5. Droid Sensei
    KZIWarrior's Avatar
    Member #
    21812
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Nashville, TN
    Posts
    2,634
    Liked
    11 times
    Phone
    SGS3
    #15
    As much as I like my phone I highly doubt that my next phone will be an Android device. It think that we will be moving more towards OEM developed/controlled OS's with accompanying market places.

    Samsung is already well into development of their OS (which will be released later this year). Nokia of course (who is the LARGEST cell phone manufacturer by far) has had their own for a while now... Motorola and LG have both announced they have a desire/plan to do so as well.... Essentially the only major OEM that has yet to announce their own OS is HTC which seams content to stick with M$ for now (and Google).

    Fiscally speaking this makes far more sense... You control your own R&D and are not dependent upon others. In addition this opens up the VERY LUCRATIVE 'market places' to each OEM. With many business's moving towards 'micro-transactions' as their preferred distribution these markets could prove VERY profitable to the OEMs (even more so than the hardware itself).
    You are right to be wary. There is much bullcrap. Be wary of me too, because I may be wrong. Make up your own mind after you evaluate all the evidence and the logic. - Mark Rippetoe
  6. Master Droid
    jimnutt's Avatar
    Member #
    20685
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Morrisville, NY
    Posts
    300
    Liked
    1 times
    Phone
    Motorola Droid
    #16
    I won't buy another phone with a locked down proprietary OS. Period. But I suspect that I (and others on this forum) am in the minority in this regard. I want the rich application ecosystem and the ability to treat the phone as something I own, rather than rent at the sufferance of the carrier or phone manufacturer (which is why the iPhone is uninteresting to me).
  7. Droid Sensei
    KZIWarrior's Avatar
    Member #
    21812
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Nashville, TN
    Posts
    2,634
    Liked
    11 times
    Phone
    SGS3
    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by jimnutt View Post
    I won't buy another phone with a locked down proprietary OS. Period. But I suspect that I (and others on this forum) am in the minority in this regard. I want the rich application ecosystem and the ability to treat the phone as something I own, rather than rent at the sufferance of the carrier or phone manufacturer (which is why the iPhone is uninteresting to me).
    ?? That statement is pretty stupid....
    Android as it is installed on our phones is "locked down and proprietary." It's only 'open' to the developers (OEMs) not the end user(s). Read you 'Terms of Service' from both VZW and Moto. We have to 'hack' the phone to gain root access and this action is enough for them to void your warranty. As to 'application(s)' ect. the OEMs are each developing their own (M$, and Nokia already have them and the others will launch their own likely before the end of the year). So you don't/won't really have a choice (seeing as you currently OWN a 'proprietary and locked down' device).
    Last edited by KZIWarrior; 02-23-2010 at 09:18 AM.
    You are right to be wary. There is much bullcrap. Be wary of me too, because I may be wrong. Make up your own mind after you evaluate all the evidence and the logic. - Mark Rippetoe
  8. Master Droid
    rkeller62's Avatar
    Member #
    13603
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    424
    Liked
    2 times
    Phone
    Motorola Droid
    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Premium View Post
    Then look at the G1 to the Droid or N1 and compare it to the original iPhone to the 3GS or the 3G to the 3GS. The experience is the same except for some minor features.

    I am just being open minded. I like my droid but I think this is an issue and might ruin android for me.
    Really?? The experience it the same except for "MINOR" features?? My sister has the original iPhone - no GPS, or video recording capability regardless of software upgrades. A friend has the iPhone 3G - still no video recording regardless of software upgrade. These are just 2 "minor" experience differences in different iPhone hardware. Oh, and BTW - the G1 had GPS and video recording support when it first launched.
  9. Master Droid
    rkeller62's Avatar
    Member #
    13603
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    424
    Liked
    2 times
    Phone
    Motorola Droid
    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by jaydee6385 View Post
    Do y'all think whenever they drop 4G will they start out with a new android os, say 3.0, to have an even platform. Or will they have them on different versions like they have now?
    Who is "They?" Google will have to add LTE support to the base OS, much like that had to add CDMA support starting with 1.6 IIRC. Therefore, any LTE phone will have to be at that minimum Android version. Also - Google releases a new version of the OS source to everybody. Therefore, any manufacturer can update their existing phones to the latest OS version, if they so choose.

    With regard to this OS Fragmentation discussion - I guess I just don't get it. The only people that really care what version of the OS they are on are people that frequent these forums. I have 4 relatives/friends that have the Droid and they don't even know that a 2.1 release is coming "soon," nor do they care. I think that 99% of the Android toting masses could care less what OS version is on their phone. They pick them based on the user interface - Sense UI version stock Androie, versus MotoBlur, etc.. Therefore, I think this whole OS fragmentation discussion is moot.
  10. Droid Ninja
    640k's Avatar
    Member #
    565
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    2,124
    Liked
    1 times
    Phone
    Enter Current Phone Here
    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by KZIWarrior View Post
    As much as I like my phone I highly doubt that my next phone will be an Android device. It think that we will be moving more towards OEM developed/controlled OS's with accompanying market places.

    Samsung is already well into development of their OS (which will be released later this year). Nokia of course (who is the LARGEST cell phone manufacturer by far) has had their own for a while now... Motorola and LG have both announced they have a desire/plan to do so as well.... Essentially the only major OEM that has yet to announce their own OS is HTC which seams content to stick with M$ for now (and Google).

    Fiscally speaking this makes far more sense... You control your own R&D and are not dependent upon others. In addition this opens up the VERY LUCRATIVE 'market places' to each OEM. With many business's moving towards 'micro-transactions' as their preferred distribution these markets could prove VERY profitable to the OEMs (even more so than the hardware itself).
    you're not looking at it from a big picture. if you're only observing each company silo, it would appear to make sense, but where are their developers coming from? do you think each phone OEM is going to supply an "endless" array of developers to make applications for every single device in their market segment?

    i think THAT'S a pretty stupid observation...

    apple already has to deal with market segment as their marketplace has plenty of apps that are compatible with one generation, but not the next. apple is no immune to what Google has already introduced.

    no OEM is going to be immune to this type of segmentation. it's all about market saturation. what will be the underlying determining factor, will be how the coding scales between revisions. as long as developers are conscious of cross-platform support, these blanket statements will be inapplicable to anything real-world.
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. New to Google Android OS
    By chuckche in forum New Member Introductions & Site Assistance
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 06-08-2010, 04:25 AM
  2. So the quest for the home replacement app begins...
    By kmkeck in forum Motorola Droid
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 02-11-2010, 12:41 AM
  3. A Msg To Those Who Support Android But Not Google
    By LordKastle in forum Android General Discussions
    Replies: 96
    Last Post: 01-12-2010, 01:54 PM
  4. Google Navigation for Android 1.6
    By Larr in forum Android General Discussions
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-24-2009, 08:59 AM

Search tags for this page

android photographic destruction
,

android self destruction derby

,
htc thunderbolt self destruction
Click on a term to search our site for related topics.
Find us on Google+